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As Blair braces for Iraq showdown, will we ever find the smoking gun?

Many are hoping the former PM will finally be brought to account, but they are heading for disappointment

As the Chilcot inquiry edges towards its climactic session with Tony Blair, the search for the smoking gun that will establish war guilt beyond dispute seems to move from room to room. It is always close to discovery, never quite found.

So it will probably prove again tomorrow, changing few minds in the process. For some people bringing Blair – the "war criminal" and "Bush's poodle" to account – is the overriding issue of the moment.

George Monbiot, an unlikely Clint Eastwood, has started a bounty hunter's fund with £100 of his own money. In today's Guardian Professor Phillippe Sands QC has rung a French political contact to be reassured that Lord Goldsmith's interpretation of the fateful UN security council resolution 1441 is not France's interpretation, as if it was ever likely to be.

Passions are running deep. But how wide? In the Indy last week, former Europe minister Denis MacShane irritatingly reminded the paper's readers just how wide the consensus was in 2003 that Saddam Hussein's arsenal was a serious threat to peace. Politicians, most of the media and of course the vote of the Commons – despite the Labour revolt which had much to commend it then and still does – pointed the same way.

What we have had since is a substantial exercise in hindsight, all those officials, diplomats politicians too – some of them providing "not me, guv" testimony to Chilcot – distancing themselves from Blair. As Philip Stephens asked in the FT the other day, if Gordon Brown is now being required to explain his role why are not some of those Tory politicians (Ken Clarke a conspicuous exception) being examined by Chilcot too?

Surely they were not hoodwinked by a man they so mistrusted? Why, even amiable Peter Stothard, then editor of the Times who was granted unique access to Blair in the crucial weeks (and ended up Sir Peter) sounded as if he was bailing out on him on Radio 4 this week.

The lynch mob mood which pervades much of the blogosphere is not conducive to calm analysis of the evidence which is – as evidence tends to be – messy and conflicting.

Lord Goldsmith's lengthy testimony yesterday fits into this pattern. Earnest, fastidious and prickly, Tony Blair's attorney general was long known to have thought the legal case for an invasion of Iraq was weak without formal UN sanction – "safer" to have a second resolution.

He was only finally persuaded after a series of meetings in February 2003 by British and US officials who had negotiated UNSCR 1441 – and told him that the ambiguities of the first resolution were inherent. Without them there would have been no resolution 1441.

Washington would concede more time to the weapons inspectors, but not a veto to the security council. That the council should "consider" those "material breaches" of the ceasefire by Iraq is not the same as "decide", Jack Straw explained in his 6 February letter to Goldsmith, crackling with condescending impatience at a slow pupil.

Stiff-necked Goldsmith has been repeatedly presented as a patsy, a crony, a man to be bullied, though it is not the impression he left after yesterday's six-hour session. As with "poodle" Blair, who (with others) persuaded George Bush to take the UN route, the stereotype does not quite fit the facts.

The inquiry has three core issues to address and further clarify if it can:

• The intelligence on WMD; It was clearly faulty, but widely believed at the time by senior officials and politicians on both sides of the Iraq divide, Egypt, Russia, France, as well as the US-UK axis. Blair will presumably say tomorrow that he believed everything he said, including those unguarded phrases, about which Sir Roderick Lyne will harry him.

• The legality of the war; Goldsmith eventually accepted the "revival" argument whereby Iraqi breaches of 1441 revived UNSCR 687 that required Saddam's regime to comply with 1991 ceasefire terms or face what 1441 called serious consequences. The precise meaning was ambiguous; that was the point. As John Denham, who resigned from the Blair government over the war in 2003, said on radio this week – at the end of the day the decision to go to war is political, not legal.

• The competence of the occupation; By general consent it was badly done and based on the false assumption that most Iraqis would welcome their deliverance from a tyranny. So they did, but not for long. The Sunni insurgency was intended to cause inter-communal disorder and it did.

Most of this we knew before Sir John Chilcot's panel first opened its inquiry. Have we learned a lot? Plenty of details. This week I was surprised to hear how Goldsmith's efforts to discuss his final legal opinion in full cabinet were blocked, presumably by Blair.

Why so feeble? And why so feeble cabinet sceptics like Claire Short and Robin Cook? Group think again? The same group think that now persuades so many people that it was all a criminal conspiracy rather than a cock-up with mixed results and some very unpleasant people on both sides of the argument.

Law and due process always matter, in international affairs as well as at home. But they are not always enough any more than peace is always preferable to war on whatever terms are available.

It usually is, though plenty of people alive in Sierra Leone or Kosovo today could not have waited for the UN security council to give the green light. Plenty who are dead in the Congo waited in vain.

I cannot yet share the optimism of William Shawcross (once a scourge of US policy in Vietnam) in this week's Guardian that things are slowly turning out for the best in Iraq; it is too soon to reach such conclusions. But so is the opposing proposition and much that passes for rational thought – as Guardian letter-writers suggest this morning.

Even Blair's harshest critics – Andrew Gilligan and Philippe Sands in Sunday's Telegraph for instance – expect him to survive his grilling tomorrow. Given the prosecutorial tone of much of the coverage, which risks misleading some voters as to the burden of evidence, Chilcot's findings are bound to disappoint. The cry of "whitewash" will again be heard.

The verdict matters because it helps shapes future perception. Margaret Thatcher's careless diplomacy and defence review helped trigger the Argentine seizure of the Falklands in 1982 – amid familiar charges of skulduggery from the usual suspects. The Franks inquiry – Chilcot without the TV cameras – generously acquitted her (cries of "whitewash") because she won.

The most egregious such re-writing of history is the Munich crisis of 1938. Then as now, the Foreign Office's finest minds wanted peace, but didn't get it. Neville Chamberlain took the blame as the Labour opposition helped put its old enemy – Churchill – into power as Hitler's troops poured west.

Michael Foot duly co-authored Guilty Men to pillory the Tories. Except that Labour's long-held commitment to collective security and the ineffectual League of Nations (no US presence) contributed to the Tory failure to rearm in the 1930s. Understandable after the horrors of the first world war, but wrong.

As Denis Healey (then a communist student) recalled on Radio 4's Today this week: "The Labour party was half-pacifist and not prepared to stand up to Hitler", as the communists were (until the Hitler-Stalin pact, when people like Healey drifted away).

Messy, isn't it? Great events usually are. It is surely best to absorb the Chilcot testimony in sombre reflection, learn from mistakes, awful but human on all sides, and try to not to make them next time.


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  • 1971thistle 1971thistle

    28 Jan 2010, 1:44PM

    Who needs a smoking gun; the invasion did not require WMD, just a 'belief' that tehy were there.

    So it with our Tone; however much he denies it, we know better....

    "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive"

  • 1971thistle 1971thistle

    28 Jan 2010, 1:52PM

    And another thing...

    putting aside the tautology of describing Denis 'Two sheds' McShane as irritating,

    Denis MacShane, irritatingly reminded the paper's readers just how wide the consensus was in 2003 that Saddam Hussein's arsenal was a serious threat to peace.

    Was this consensus not requiring of two dossiers to prop it up, suggesting that those who propagated the threat did not think it was convincing enough in it's own right.

    Therefore it was a consensus engineered in part by dissembling, which (to my simple mind) kind of underwhelms Mr. McShane's potting shed missive

  • duppyconqueror duppyconqueror

    28 Jan 2010, 2:01PM

    A revisionist history lesson from one of the major cheerleaders for war in Britains supine press.
    The Shame for supporting this disastrous and devisive war is all yours Mr White, you worked hard for it, you earned it and now it is yours for keeps.

  • mirra mirra

    28 Jan 2010, 2:04PM

    This "Iraq Inquiry" reminds not a very good play which is... played for whom?
    Is there anyone in the world who has not still got what is going on and what us-uk army is doing in that distant unfortunate land? Here is soo much sarcasm in the way this inquiry was staffed: laughing people who have obviously never known any needs and dont have any idea (at least aproximately) what is going on there. But if they really do - then its horrible to imagine why they dont want to unveil the truth and to call to account perpetrators who broke international law and still enjoy freedom. and how can they keep doing their daily business and keep living on NORMALLY without any remorse while civilians are dying there every minute?!
    It is all about international policy, not international law (does it really exists or just a kind of eyewash - all these conventions, resolutions?....)

  • eddiep eddiep

    28 Jan 2010, 2:15PM

    Denis MacShane, irritatingly reminded the paper's readers just how wide the consensus was in 2003 that Saddam Hussein's arsenal was a serious threat to peace.

    But as you point out, this consensus was only held by politicians and the media. There never was such a consensus among the public, most of whom could smell that something was wrong.

  • luxuryplayer luxuryplayer

    28 Jan 2010, 2:32PM

    eddiep

    But as you point out, this consensus was only held by politicians and the media. There never was such a consensus among the public, most of whom could smell that something was wrong.

    Well I have to say, that's not how I remember it. This is from the IPSOS/Mori site, 8 April 2003:

    MORI's latest survey, undertaken 28-31 March, found only a bare plurality approving of the way the Prime Minister, Tony Blair, is handling the current situation with Iraq, 47% approve and 44% disapprove, for a net plus 3. By contrast, the latest Pew research in the USA found that 69% of Americans approve of the way the President, George W. Bush, is handling the war and 23% disapprove, a net plus 46.

    However, a majority of the British, 56%, support Britain taking part in the military action against Iraq and 38% oppose, according to the MORI telephone poll of 969 British adults.

    A new online poll by YouGov found 68% of British people thought Tony Blair's handling of the war had been excellent or good. Of those questioned on 3/4 April, 28% said his handling had been poor or very poor. The poll, for ITV's Jonathan Dimbleby programme on Sunday, showed 55% of those surveyed said the US and UK were right to have taken military action against Iraq, with 38% saying they were wrong.

    ICM, in the Daily Mirror on Friday, asked on 1 April "Now that the war is two weeks old, do you think we were right or wrong to start it?", and found 48% said 'right', and 38% 'wrong', with men nearly two to one saying 'right' (58% to 32%), while a plurality of women, 43% 'wrong' and just 39% 'right'. Young people are split equally over whether Britain was right or wrong to 'start' the war, 42% taking each side. Among the next age cohort however, the 25-34s, 57% said 'right' and only a third, 34%, 'wrong'.

    Now that the war is underway, there is overwhelming support here for leaving the British forces there to do the job they were sent to do. Asked "When do you think you would consider it right to bring British forces home from Iraq", only 16% say 'now' and three in four, 77%, say 'when the war is over, no matter how long it takes'.

    The latest YouGov internet survey for the Daily Telegraph published on Friday also shows steady support for the US and Britain taking military action against Iraq. The fieldwork, last Wednesday and Thursday, found 55% saying 'right' and 38% 'wrong, a net plus 17, compared to plus 14 on 1 April, plus 16 on 30 March, and plus 24 on March 27 just after the troops went in.

    Nearly eight in ten of those taking part over the internet said they thought the war was going well from the British and American forces point of view, but 73% said they are 'worried' about the war and its possible consequences.

    Of those who said they were 'worried', three in four identified either more terrorist attacks on Western targets (74%) and terrorist attacks in this country (72%).

    In the USA, public support for the war remains steady. A new poll by the respected Pew organisation released on Thursday from fieldwork March 28 - April 1, has 71% of Americans approving of the way the American President, George W. Bush, is handling his job as President, and 69% approving of the way he is dealing with the war in Iraq.

    Four in ten Americans, 44%, say they are worried that themselves or someone in their family might become a victim of a terrorist attack, and eight in ten say they are worried 'a great deal' (39%) or 'a fair amount' (43%) that terrorists might strike within the U.S.

    There was never an overwhelming majority in support, but there was certainly a majority.

    As to the "smoking gun" - it can't be found. It simply doesn't exist.

  • DrGee DrGee

    28 Jan 2010, 2:32PM

    If the armchair warriors like Blair, Bush, White, etc were so sure of their case that they'd be prepared to stand up front as the invasion rolls into enemy territory then maybe I'd be prepared to accept that they're really ready to espouse war-making as a means to an end.

    As it is they prefer to send others off to kill and be killed in the name of some dodgy dossier or whatever. True cowards indeed.

  • deepbluesee deepbluesee

    28 Jan 2010, 2:36PM

    Good article, showing all the shades of grey. And as for polititians and other officials trying to rewrite their own histories, I can smell the reek from Whitehall here on the South Coast.

    I was right on the fence about this war, my usual inclination being against.
    Once the decision was made, I can hear myself with friends saying 'on balance' we back it.

    The 'sexing up' of the dodgy dossier was only required to carry a chunk of Labout MPs. The bulk of Tories were already decided. Jack Straw said last year that the Americans were going in and no British Government would leave them to it alone. I think that was true at the time, but will not be true in the future.

    Hussein's regime takes some believing when you consider the threat on his doorstep. He wanted to satisfy the weapons inspectors while keeping the rest of the middle east convinced that he still had the threat.

    At the start of the war I can remember Hans Blix on the Today program saying 'I would not be at all surprised if WMD were found in Iraq'. Considering his position, I think he expected them as much as anyone else.

    All the other countries believed it, or they would never have gone as far as resolution 1441.

    What is completely unforgivable is the complete lack of a post invasion strategy, and I expect that to be the most damning thing from this inquiry.

    And did Bush commit to Blair, even tentatively, on pressure on the Israelis to take the necessary steps in Palestine? My guess is that one day we will find the answer is yes and that Bush never delivered.

  • 434kr 434kr

    28 Jan 2010, 2:45PM

    Michael White writes that

    "The intelligence on WMD; It was clearly faulty, but widely believed at the time by senior officials and politicians on both sides of the Iraq divide" Crucial words, those: "at the time".

    In September 2002, yes, most people thought that Iraq had WMDs. But after several months of Hans Blix inspections, the picture was different. The alternative second resolution submitted on 24 February 2003 by France, Germany and Russia, noted that "While suspicions remain, no evidence has been given that Iraq still possesses weapons of mass destruction or capabilities in this field".

    Jack Straw, in his own oral evidence to Chilcot, conceded that he could not understand why the countries that supported the first resolution, 1441, would not support the second one. Here is why: Iraq did not have the WMDs that had previously been supposed. Michael White's first question would be better phrased as an investigation into why British policy did not keep up with events and discoveries in the months between September 2002 and the eventual invasion.

    Richard Laming

  • doomtrain doomtrain

    28 Jan 2010, 2:46PM

    So Michael, anybody who profoundly disagrees wih your analasys is a member , or potential member of a lynch mob. I dont know whether to laugh,cry or call my solicitor.

  • papasmurf papasmurf

    28 Jan 2010, 2:52PM

    best to absorb the Chilcot testimony in sombre reflection, learn from mistakes, awful but human on all sides, and try to not to make them next time.

    Lovely sentiment, Michael. Only we're not talking about mere 'mistakes'. If what we've learnt this week emphasises anything it is that, far from errors of judgement, the manipulation of the cabinet and British Parliament into sanctioning the invasion of Iraq was a work of extreme political sophistication.

    It's a sad truth that, when it comes to international law, the only way in which wrongs will be learnt from is if those who made them are brought to justice.

  • papasmurf papasmurf

    28 Jan 2010, 3:01PM

    In September 2002, yes, most people thought that Iraq had WMDs. But after several months of Hans Blix inspections, the picture was different.

    Indeed.

    Far from vindicating those who advocated immediate military intervention, the findings of Blix's team - before their rapid recall - actually paints the rather horrifying picture of a war based on the fear of losing the opportunity.

  • Cunctator Cunctator

    28 Jan 2010, 3:07PM

    'if Gordon Brown is now being required to explain his role why are not some of those Tory politicians '

    Because Brown sat in the cabinet as the 2nd most powerful man in government. Examined the evidence. And funded the atrocity (though not sufficently it would seem.)
    The Tories were as remote from the real truth, or the power to influence events as
    Michael White himself.

  • Forthestate Forthestate

    28 Jan 2010, 3:11PM

    The precise meaning was ambiguous; that was the point.

    No it wasn't. You know it wasn't, Goldsmith knew it wasn't, that's why it took him so long before he changed his mind, at the last minute, and everyone knows it wasn't if they're in possession of the facts and they're honest. There was no "automaticity". We know that. It's established. It was Tony's last resort, and it was another deception. Go back and look it all up' Michael, the specific text of the Resolution that makes it quite clear that no action could be taken in the manner that it was. I can't be bothered to go through it again. The revival argument has gone. That's all of a smoking gun you need. That and the fact that even the CIA didn't think Saddam had WMD by the time we invaded.

    And duppyconqueror, well said. It's your war, Michael, and you must be proud of it.

  • deepbluesee deepbluesee

    28 Jan 2010, 3:29PM

    EDITORIAL TEAM

    This article provides a different view on the inquiry and related events that pretty much anything else that has been on the Home page recently.

    Why has the link been removed from the home page?

    Surely an article like this demands good exposure.

    It was only posted a few hours ago!!!

  • fiatlux fiatlux

    28 Jan 2010, 4:09PM

    Those of us who would like to see Tony Blair being charged for deceiving the people of the United Kingdom will be disappointed. Not going to happen. The former PM will laugh all the way out of the inquiry room.

    But are members of the inquiry going to make this glib man squirm? Even if they conclude at the end that Blair did not engage in 'criminal' acts in committing the nation to Bush's war, is their finding going to make it clear that his role was reprehensible and a very costly one? Blair has to live with his conscience. He might be comforted by absolution at the confessional. In the court of public opinion he would remain a selfish, dastardly man.

  • CMYK CMYK

    28 Jan 2010, 4:15PM

    The smoking gun has either been shredded or it will never appear unless under oath.

    Even a benign Chilcot inquiry has exposed holes in some of the testimonies. Imagine what a full legal inquiry, like the Dutch held, could reveal.

  • CMYK CMYK

    28 Jan 2010, 4:31PM

    Why did Blair continue to maintain that it was "beyond doubt" that Saddam was manufacturing chemical weapons right up until the invasion even though he had been told this was not the case 10 days beforehand?

    Please answer that one MW.

    doomtrain
    So Michael, anybody who profoundly disagrees wih your analasys is a member , or potential member of a lynch mob. I dont know whether to laugh,cry or call my solicitor.

    If a Conservative government had gone in on the basis of dodgy intelligence and a sexed-up dossier MW would be calling for public hangings.

    As it is they (HM's Opposition) deserve a mild flogging for their lack of backbone.

  • Forthestate Forthestate

    28 Jan 2010, 4:54PM

    "Will we ever find the smoking gun?" You've got some chutzpah to ask that question, Michael, when the evidence, the well established lies, the evasions, the buck passing and the whole lamentable story is there before us, day after day. Smoking gun? Take your pick.

    But you're quite right about Blair believing everything he said being paramount of the three core issues; that's all he has to say. He believed Saddam had WMD and was a threat, and what's to say he didn't, apart from the consistent pattern of resolutely refusing to listen to the intelligence itself when it consistently failed to provide a strong enough case for invasion. That pattern of behaviour is a smoking gun, Mr. White. You don't routinely ignore the findings of your intelligence services, in fact, dictate intelligence to them on the scale of the 'threat', and routinely ignore the advice of your legal team until it comes up with what you want to hear, unless you've made up your mind, and are determined to fix the facts (lie) around the policy. That's a smoking gun. They're all over the place, they've been accurately identified time and again on this site.

    Shameful and lamentable, as is the defence of it, which is also ludicrous under the circumstances.

  • ZacMurdoch ZacMurdoch

    28 Jan 2010, 5:01PM

    This week I was surprised to hear how Goldsmith's efforts to discuss his final legal opinion in full cabinet were blocked, presumably by Blair.

    If I've understood what I've been reading correctly, Michael, I'm not sure he was 'blocked', exactly, by Blair or anyone - wasn't it just that they had all seen and read his statement giving his advice, accepted it and didn't need him to expand on it during a short meeting?

    I thought there was a sort of 'do we need to discuss this question?' (presumably from Balir as chair) and a consensus that no, they didn't. It might seem a bit cavalier, especially as he didn't attend cabinet very often, but if the advice was clear and they all accepted it, it didn't need discussion.

    As Goldsmith himself said (not in relation to this issue) there's a difference between legal and right. Having got the view from the highest authority (ie Goldsmith, attorney general) on the former, they focused on the moral and political question that relates to the latter.

  • liberalcynic liberalcynic

    28 Jan 2010, 5:38PM

    What we have had since is a substantial exercise in hindsight

    No, Michael.

    Some of us were actually listening to what Hans Blix was saying at the time, though clearly neither Bush nor Blair were.

    A lot of sheeple on the backbenches (and media commentators) believed the line they were spun by Blair because they wanted so badly to believe it.

    Not everyone was quite so gullible, however.

  • bunster bunster

    28 Jan 2010, 5:46PM

    The reality is that most of your correspondents want a Stalinist show trial where they can harrangue Tony Blair and anyone who disagrees with the war. A bit of honesty is what we really need. For commercial reasons France and Russsia were never going to agree to a second UN resolution and even if Hans Blix had gone back again and found WMD they would have used their veto. Practically all the commenetators who called the war an illegal war were against it for political reasons from the start and in reality very little new has come out so far. Hutton and Butler have give one view- if Chilcot goes the other way why should those who suported the war accept Chilcot when they can rely on Hutton and Butler. If Chilcot does not give the anti war supporters what they want will we have yet another inquiry until they find someone who gives them what they want.

  • liberalcynic liberalcynic

    28 Jan 2010, 5:54PM

    Practically all the commenetators who called the war an illegal war were against it for political reasons from the start and in reality very little new has come out so far.

    On what possible foundation do you make that assertion? At the time of the invasion I was a Labour Party member, not a fully paid-up Mandelsonite but certainly pragmatically centre-left rather than dogmatic. I had every reason to want to support what the party I supported was doing in power.

    However, I also noted that it was about to launch a war that was both illegal under international law and likely to be counter-productive in the fight against terrorism.

    I wasn't grinding any particular political axe when I marched against the war. Some things are just so flagrantly, obviously misguided and this was one of them - ill-advised rather than evil in intent, perhaps, but to the thousands who lost their lives or family members certainly evil in execution.

    No government should casually wander into wars of choice for reasons of political expediency or of staying best friends with the coolest kid on the block. War is just too terrible to be entered into so lightly. You don't have to be 'lefty' or a Blair-baiter to acknowledge that.

  • harbinger harbinger

    28 Jan 2010, 6:12PM

    Michael White treats the greatest disaster in modern times as if he is a headmaster admonishing one of his bright scholars for missing morning assembly. Pat on the head, go away dear boy, and 'don't do it again, will you'.

    White agrees - 'that Denis MacShane irritatingly reminded the paper's readers just how wide the consensus was in 2003 that Saddam Hussein's arsenal was a serious threat to peace. Politicians, most of the media and of course the vote of the Commons ?

    To call this a wide consensus is stretching credulity somewhat to the limit. The Commons voted for because they were told to do so by their respective leaders, the media were typically gungho with 'Oh What a Lovely War' - so to boast that this was a consensus is to treat us readers as if we are dimwits. It boils down to saying a thousand people can't be wrong, which is of course idiotic logic.

    This kind of stuff from Michael White emits itself from the leather armchairs of the Travellers Club and bears no resemblance to reality.

    Saddam was after the first Gulf War never regarded as a threat to world peace and he never had any WMD that threatened anybody in the region let alone Wapping or Westminster, which Hans Blick in this very paper makes clear was his view.

    Really, to end this piece with a 'please try harder next time' wave of the hand makes me spit with anger.

  • deepbluesee deepbluesee

    28 Jan 2010, 6:25PM

    @liberalcynic

    Some of us were actually listening to what Hans Blix was saying at the time, though clearly neither Bush nor Blair were.

    My memory is of Hans Blix leaving Iraq frustrated by the machinations and obstruction he faced in Iraq and of him duly reporting this to the UN.

    I wasn't grinding any particular political axe when I marched against the war.

    Yes you were. Michael White is not talking about narrow UK party politics here.

  • drabacus drabacus

    28 Jan 2010, 7:25PM

    In the Indy last week, former Europe minister Denis MacShane irritatingly reminded the paper's readers just how wide the consensus was in 2003 that Saddam Hussein's arsenal was a serious threat to peace. Politicians, most of the media and of course the vote of the Commons ? despite the Labour revolt which had much to commend it then and still does ? pointed the same way.

    I have a vague memory of some people in the street in London. Guess it was just the usual rabble.

  • Milton Milton

    28 Jan 2010, 8:09PM

    eddiep [28 Jan 2010, 2:15PM]: " Denis MacShane, irritatingly reminded the paper's readers just how wide the consensus was in 2003 that Saddam Hussein's arsenal was a serious threat to peace.

    "But as you point out, this consensus was only held by politicians and the media. There never was such a consensus among the public, most of whom could smell that something was wrong."

    Exactly so. What could possibly explain the fact that so many people outside the political and media establishment were profoundly sceptical despite the apparent consensus of the former?

    The answer is so simple: it's because the evidence was thin to non-existent (in fact, considering the efforts of Blix et al it actually contradicted the official line) and the politicians knew it, much of the smarter bits of the media knew it, and the whole thing was a desperate proaganda exercise to find something, anything, to justify an illegal war which had been decided upon years before.

    We haven't forgotten that Cheney and Rumsfeld wanted to attack Iraq directly after 9/11, have we? That many of those involved have since said explicitly that "intelligence was fixed around" the need to justify the war? That Blair is now known to have agreed to go to war before he could possibly have known whether any legal justification could be found? There's almost nothing left to find out, for heaven's sake. All that's left is sophistry, spin and playing with words.

    Fact is, it was a foul con job, and plenty of people simply didn't fall for it. The ones who did are still making excuses and will be till the day they join the hundreds of thousands they helped to kill.

  • Milton Milton

    28 Jan 2010, 8:10PM

    Oops. Para 3 should have read:

    "Exactly so. What could possibly explain the fact that so many people outside the political and media establishment were profoundly sceptical despite the apparent consensus of the latter?"

  • Breaking3 Breaking3

    28 Jan 2010, 8:20PM

    http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/denis_macshane/rotherham#votingrecord
    How Denis MacShane (Denis Matyjaszek) voted on key issues since 2001:

    Voted moderately against a transparent Parliament.
    Voted moderately for introducing a smoking ban.
    Voted very strongly for introducing ID cards.
    Voted very strongly for introducing foundation hospitals.
    Voted strongly for introducing student top-up fees.
    Voted strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws.

    Voted very strongly for the Iraq war.
    Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war.

    Has never voted on replacing Trident.
    Voted moderately for the hunting ban.
    Voted moderately for equal gay rights.
    Voted moderately against laws to stop climate change.

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  • audesapere audesapere

    28 Jan 2010, 8:27PM

    Some of us have already reached disappointment...disappointment that a parliamentary democracy we value so highly has been brought so low.

    The great goodness inherent in much of the British and American systems appears to have been tarnished so grossly over much of the past decade. You might call me naive for daring to believe in a better Britain...more fool me. Maybe it has always been this way and the growth in the modern media, especially the internet, has just highlighted our system's flaws even more acutely? Either way, I do believe we must demand better.

    I do not wish Mr Blair any personal ill, yet if only to ensure the future governance of this country is not dragged down a similar path, he, amongst others, ought to, at very least, show some contrition. Yet, this has never been the case.

    A man who takes £600,000 of tax-payers' money a year for the office of Peace Envoy to the Middle East. What tangible work to this end does he do?...what could he do? A man who took Britain to war in Iraq & Afghanistan, helped facilitate Israel's bombing of Lebanon, did not criticise Israel's attack on Gaza in any way...how could such a man be expected to be an honest broker of peace in the region? Has he no shame?

    Many of us expected no more from the Bush administration, but were severely disappointed in ours with Blair at the helm. He had a golden opportunity to be the sober friend warning his American counterparts that the Iraqi regime had nothing to do with Al Qaeda and action without UN backing was ill-advised. The way support for the war in Iraq was obtained is another sad chapter in his history. His dossier of "no doubt" swayed a lot of people. We didn't have all the intelligence he had, yet it does appear quite clearly that we were spun by manipulated information.

    Dr David Kelly's Inquest was halted by the government and left for Lord Hutton, not a coroner, amongst his brief, to decide his cause of death.
    The BBC's Andrew Gilligan dared to state that Downing Street "probably knew" 45 minute claim was wrong resulted in the witch-hunt of the BBC, the death of Dr David Kelly, the whitewash that was the Hutton Report and the cull at the BBC. The government escaped blameless.

    Many now do think Downing Street "probably knew" 45 minute claim was wrong, but will the BBC receive an apology and those in Downing Street properly be taken to task. Most probably not.

    It only recently came to light that Lord Hutton classified information for 70 years relating to medical reports (including post-mortem) of Dr Kelly. This information was not widely reported on most of the mainstream media at the time (BBC, ITV, Sky) and was given little coverage generally. The circumstances of Dr Kelly's demise, the halting of a public inquest, subsequent gagging orders and lack of media reporting have left me bemused at what our country and its values have become.

  • Eachran Eachran

    28 Jan 2010, 10:24PM

    OK I have read you all and agree with most but I shall chuck in my contribution for what it's worth.

    Mikewhitereplies, you are difficult sometimes. Just to post on this thread I had to read Mr McShane. I think that you do these things on purpose just to put off people like me : but I gritted my teeth.

    I probably agree with him that the whole of the HoC voting yes should be carted off to the ICC. But I wouldn't describe the feelings at the time as a consensus, more like herd behaviour of the sort that created the financial mess. You would have to stretch the definition of personal responsibility a bit to equate it to herd behaviour : perhaps willing herd behaviour. A sort of, only following orders but willingly. I don?t think that the yes voters are off the hook by pleading willing herd behaviour your honour.

    (luxuryplayer, I cant say that I am impressed with your lists of polls. They were late on and it is well known that the Brits dont piss on their own soldiers when they are asked to lay down their lives for their country. It?s called solidarity.)

    So I'm not convinced by the consensus argument.

    Neither was everyone hoodwinked. Returning to the herd behaviour analogy : just as people aren't willingly herd members, neither are they willingly blinkered herd members. It unfortunately has to do with being an animal, as people are. The worst always are males, always biting other males' ankles to go up in the barking order.

    Mr Blair at the time was riding the international surf, sun-tanned, master at home and admired overseas with some not unimportant allies in Europe watching his every move and waiting for the next. He did have sufficient charisma to drag others along, the Dutch are examples. But, as I remind all my family, friends, acquaintances and loved ones, it is difficult spotting a wrong'un if you are not a native speaker of their language. Blair was and is a wrong'un, which is why many millions of Brits spotted him but others didn?t.

    So I don?t blame the Governments of the coalition forces : they probably took Blair's account of the CBNs and their deliverability at face value.

    I have written on Mr Goldsmith on Mr Sands' comment but I would add to, he was never finally persuaded. Mr Goldsmith has insufficient independence from the pack to be finally persuaded on anything not even on buying the next round. He is probably the sucker who pays for each round with everyone laughing at him. But he did get rewarded, which is not the same as a quid pro quo (English definition). As for his questioning, there was no-one experienced enough to put him under the same, or more, pressure than his chosen super-pack did : he felt comfortable where he was - in good old blighty.

    On intelligence : there wasn't any. If there had been the slightest sniff then the Israelis would have been in like a shot.

    On legality : all decisions to wage war are political but they can still be judged under international law to which the UK is a signatory.

    The Mrs T analogy is a bit naughty : the UK was defending its territory.

    Have we learned a lot? I think so, and in particular the necessity to fix the checks and balances for the separation of powers in the UK. But you Brits haven't even started.

    You need to stop any future PM having the powers that Biggles did.

    I would like to think that the next book will be, Biggles gets a grilling, but I agree he wont and I regret even more deeply that I will never see the book I really want in my library which is, Biggles goes to jail.

  • anboto anboto

    29 Jan 2010, 12:11AM

    "It is surely best to absorb the Chilcot testimony in sombre reflection, learn from mistakes, awful but human on all sides, and try to not to make them next time."

    What a depressing and facile piece this is by Michael White.

    What have we actually learned so far? The principal lesson is that the UK does not have an adequate legal backstop to prevent what can only be described as a megalomaniac PM and unelected inner cabal deciding to go to war without an unambiguous legal basis and in the face of massive public opposition, bending and spinning concocted intelligence to suit. And we don't have an adequate parliamentary system to counteract the ambitions of a very small number of powerful men. What has really changed since the Middle Ages apart from the destructive power of weaponry?

    And given that we don't have an effective way to prevent these sort of people waging aggressive war on a flimsy pretext, then the only way I can see to really make them think twice next time (and there will be a next time) is to ensure that all wars waged without an absolutely unequivocal UN resolution see the perpertrators dragged to the Hague.

    An effective lesson, which would be quickly learned by future Blairs, Straws and Campbells.

  • TotalMadness TotalMadness

    29 Jan 2010, 12:21AM

    All this talk about legal and illegal wars is nonsense. Find me this "International law". After all, Blair had committed troops into battle without a UN resolution, long before Iraq. Like a UN resolution would really have made a difference to the people who were going to die in Iraq - but it would have allowed the liberal-left to feel good about itself. Surely the only issue at stake is whether or not Tony Blair lied to parliament. Talk about legality and illegality will allow Blair (a skilful lawyer and an articulate speaker) the opportunity to wriggle of the hook, again.

  • porsupuesto porsupuesto

    29 Jan 2010, 1:33PM

    Micheal; too much of that is simply not true.

    What we have had since is a substantial exercise in hindsight, ....

    Actually, not so for several. That is just not true. Issues that were evident before the invasion were that there insufficient forces were being prepared for occupation and this could lead to destanbilisation of Iraq. There was also no evidence of any nuclear weapons and there was no evidence of any WMD delivery system for any other type of WMD that could reach the US or UK or even Europe- at any point. Suspicion of possession of some chemical and biological WMD is not an immediate and direct threat if they cannot be delivered. I know that to be the case before the invasion and it is on reocrd that I did, because I wrote to 400MPs setting these risks and issues out in Jan-Feb 2003. I also sent an email carrying the same analyses to Guardian journalists - including yourself Micheal. You may not have read it; I did not expect journalists to bother because it was not a long document and only from ammeber of the public, but it was sent to you well before the invasion. I know that some Guardian staff did receive it because Polly Toynbee did correspond with me over it.

    Others like Glen Rengwala and Scott Ritter were presenting material on the web about the lack of credibility of some government claims before the invasion.So to say that some of these issues had not been foreseen and communicated before the invasion is simply not true.

    The inquiry has three core issues to address and further clarify if it can:

    ? The intelligence on WMD; It was clearly faulty, but widely believed at the time Russia, France, as well as the US-UK axis.

    Yes it has but your presentation of events is misleading Micheal. The MoD WMD experts found no evidence of any immediate Iraqi threat and complained about the spin put on their findings in the JIC assessment. Russia did not believe Iraq had WMD and Putin said so publically at a joint press conference with Blair. France did not and even the US contradicted the UK on the fabricated claim that Saddam was buying yellowcake from Niger. Furthermore, the only source in the Iraqi government the West finally obtained, in the form of the CIA , told the US before the invasion that Iraq had destroyed its WMD. We know JIC knew, because Scarlet referred to it in his testimony to Chilcot.

    ? The legality of the war; ....the precise meaning was ambiguous; that was the point.

    Deliberate ambiguity to deceive other security council members as to whether automaticity was inherent in 1441 is potentially evidence of deliberate deception. Why hide your policy intent unless you know it to be potentially unlawful? The sponsors of the resolution, Greenstock and Negroponte , were both on record as stating there was NO automaticity. Furthermore, we know that the Goverment and Straw knew that an almost unprecendted majority of legal opinion and a unanimity of legal opinion in the FCO, saw regime change as illegal and invasion without a second resolution as unlawful. You are right to say the ultimate decision is political: but what sort of politician decides to invade in the full knowledge tnat the act is unlawful? The key issue here is not the PMs mendacity of lack of it, although I can list 8 occasions when I believe he made false statements over Iraq. The issue is his judgenment and on this issue it was simply, literally, awful.

    ? The competence of the occupation;

    See my comments above about insufficient troops for occupation and trying to inform MPs and journalist of these risks. The significance of not going to the UN goes beyond the moral and lawful into the pragmatic. Without the UN, there were not enough forces available to occupy Iraq from the Coalition in spring 2003, unless the US and UK instituted a draft and/or postponed the invasion date.

    Law and due process always matter, in international affairs as well as at home. But they are not always enough any more than peace is always preferable to war on whatever terms are available. It usually is, though plenty of people alive in Sierra Leone or Kosovo today could not have waited for the UN security council to give the green light. Plenty who are dead in the Congo waited in vain.

    Tearing down laws and international institutions is no remedy for lack of appropriate mechanisms for intervention. The answer is to get agreement in the Security Council. It does not prevent intervention in other states - that is a false claim. There is a humanitarian basis for military intervention in sovereign states and we know about it because we used it in Kosovo- which consequently was lawful. Those laws are there in response to fascist crimes of aggression in the last century. Do you really want the world to go back to an international arena that allows that?

  • MikeWhitereplies MikeWhitereplies

    29 Jan 2010, 6:29PM

    Staff Staff

    I know some posters were against the war from the start for a variety of reasons, some respectable, others more expedient. The public opinion point in 2003 has already been dealt with. To put it another way up to 1 mn marched which means 59mn didn't.

    Other people feel cheated as a result of what they now know. That's fine too, but it is hindsight. Dissent can be manufactured as easily as consent. The weight of media coverage is jaw-droppingly hostile as people watching Blair's testimony today must have noticed.

    The analysis rests on the "why's he lying?'' proposition. Check the verbs, rarely neutral in what I've seen so far. Much as many people - me among them - predicted Blair managed his six hour grilling pretty well.

    Doomtrain accuses me of inciting a lynch mob against those who disagree with me. I don't think so, do you? CMYK says I would have been raising the roof against a Tory government in trouble. Nope, I would tried to have been fair. Ask John Major if he comes online.

    Good point about the French and Russians Bunster. Blair and Blix have different recollections of what was said. Who do you trust, eh? Take your pick. Thanks for your support, Bunster, and that of other posters. Sorry to make Eachran read Denis MacShane.

    I sign off on the reproach by Harbinger for being too calm about what he (It's rarely a she) calls " the greatest disaster of modern times." Oh really? That ignorant and hysterical sense of proportion is part of the problem here.

    Rwanda ? Congo ? A lot more have died there than died in Iraq by any measure, but they died without US, let alone UN intervention, so it does not attract the glib moral outrage crowd or keep them angry late at night.

  • Sterling77 Sterling77

    30 Jan 2010, 9:49AM

    Bliar's 'Chilcot' performance proved he is a messianic narccistic with poor judgement. He failed to resuscitate his reputation and entrenched the view that he misled Parliament with seriously flawed intelligence. Those closely associated with him will be contaminated by his mistakes. It does not bode well for Brown or the Labour Party.

  • gv1234 gv1234

    30 Jan 2010, 2:18PM

    ***will we ever find the smoking gun?***

    Is anyone really looking for it? I mean anyone who would have the power to charge him if it is found. I doubt that.

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