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Ujaswin wrote:
GMATNinja can you please advise the right way to eliminate the incorrect answer choices. I was stuck between A & D.

I'm very late to the party, but since the question was very much addressed to us, I'll take a stab, just in case it helps somebody out there.

Here's the full sentence using choice (D):

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(D) Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, which, though certainly home to the stocks of some of the world’s great corporations, restricted their gains.

Stripping out the clause beginning with "thought certainly home...", we're left with:

    "Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, which restricted their gains."

Well, the first problem is that it's not entirely clear what's being modified by the "which..." clause. Does it modify "U.S. stock market"? Investments? Limiting? The last one (limiting) seems to make the most sense - what is the thing that "restricted their gains"? LIMITING their investments to the U.S. stock market.

Okay, fine... MAYBE the "which" clause is okay here - "limiting" functions as a noun, and "which..." is a noun modifier.

But if we strip out the "which" clause, we are left with:

    "Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market."

Notice that there is no verb for "limiting"!

The following examples might make that more clear:

  • "Riding on my motorcycle is fun." - No problem. "Riding" is the subject, and "is" is the verb.
  • "Riding on my motorcycle, which was manufactured in Japan, is fun." - Again, no problem. The only difference is that we've added a noun modifier ("which...") to modify "motorcycle".
  • "Riding on my motorcycle, which was manufactured in Japan." - No good! The "which" clause has its own verb ("was manufactured"), but there is no main verb for the subject of the sentence ("Riding"). If we strip out the "which" clause, we are left with, "Riding on my motorcycle." That's clearly not a sentence.

Back to choice (D), we have a similar problem. The subject of the "that..." clause is "limiting", and "limiting" needs a verb to go with it. The verb "restricted" belongs to the "which..." clause, and we never actually get a verb to pair with "limiting".

Choice (A) avoids that problem:

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(A) Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, even though it is certainly home to the stocks of some of the world’s great corporations, restricted their gains.

What are many stock traders convinced of? They are convinced that LIMITING {...} restricted their gains.

I hope that helps!
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Dear Friends,

Here is a detailed explanation to this question-

Bunuel wrote:
Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, even though it is certainly home to the stocks of some of the world’s great corporations, restricted their gains.

(A) even though it is certainly
(B) which, while it is certainly
(C) despite that that market is certainly
(D) which, though certainly
(E) although, certainly as


Choice A: This answer choice maintains proper construction to convey the intended meaning of the sentence and is quite concise. Thus, this answer choice is correct.

Choice B: This answer choice incorrectly modifies the noun "U.S. stock market" with the phrase "which...restricted their gains"; it was not the U.S stock market that supposedly restricted the stock traders' gains, rather it was the action of "limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market" that did so. Thus, this answer choice is incorrect.

Choice C: This answer choice is technically correct. However, the use of the phrase "that market" to refer to "the U.S stock market" leads to the highly awkward construction "despite that that market". Thus, this answer choice is not a very good one.

Choice D: This answer choice repeats the error found in Option B. Thus, this answer choice is incorrect.

Choice E: This answer choice places information vital to the sentence between two commas; if the phrase "certainly as home to the stocks of some of the world’s great corporations" is removed from this sentence, the inclusion of the conjunction "although" no longer makes sense as there is no longer any information for it to draw a contrast against.

Hence, A is the best answer choice.

To understand the concept of "Extra Information Between two Commas on GMAT", you may want to watch the following video (~1 minute):



To understand the concept of "Use of Which, Who, Whose, and Where on GMAT" you may want to watch the following video (~1 minute):



To understand the concept of "Although, Though, Despite, and While on GMAT", you may want to watch the following video (~1 minute):



All the best!
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Can anybody please elaborate on the role of the " convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market"
what is it modifying and how after " that" we have clause
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Bunuel wrote:
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Can anybody please elaborate on the role of the " convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market"
what is it modifying and how after " that" we have clause


Hi..
'convinced...' is modifying the subject of the previous clause, that is MANY stock traders..

The layout of the question is ....
IC, modifier.
Now this modifier has a dependent clause - even though...
So..
(IC)Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, (Modifier)convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, even though it is certainly home to the stocks of some of the world's great corporations,restricted their gains.
And the struck portion is the Dependent clause.
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Bunuel wrote:
Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, even though it is certainly home to the stocks of some of the world’s great corporations, restricted their gains.

A. even though it is certainly
B. which, while it is certainly
C. despite that that market is certainly
D. which, though certainly
E. although, certainly as


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A. No error.
B. Which refers to the U.S. stock market, but it is not the market that restricted their gains. It is limiting their investments to this market that restricted their gains.
C. Wordy structure.
D. The same error in B.
E. Sentence structure error. No main verb after although.
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that-clause never follow a preposition . this is hard and fast rule.
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Can you please elaborate more on following statement from your explanation-
"By adding the "which" in there, the modifier "while it is certainly home to the stocks of some of the world's great corporations" is now linked to the phrase "restricted their gains," which isn't what we want. "

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rocking1994abhi wrote:
Can you please elaborate more on following statement from your explanation-
"By adding the "which" in there, the modifier "while it is certainly home to the stocks of some of the world's great corporations" is now linked to the phrase "restricted their gains," which isn't what we want. "

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Hello rocking1994abhi!

Thanks for the question! This is an incredibly tough question to deal with because the modifiers are long-winded and confusing.

Another way to look at options B, D, & E is to remove the parenthetical statement and see what we're left with:

B. Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, which, while it is certainly home to the stocks of some of the world’s great corporations, restricted their gains.

If we read what's left over, it doesn't really work. Parenthetical statements - statements wedged between commas - are considered non-essential clauses, which means they can be removed from the sentence without changing meaning or creating grammatical errors. If we take out the modifier here and leave the "which," it sounds like the clause was cut off mid-thought. Therefore, we can eliminate this option because the word "which" chops in half the modifier "convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market restricted their gains."

D. Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, which, though certainly home to the stocks of some of the world’s great corporations, restricted their gains.

This option has the same problem - it chops up the modifier into two parts, instead of leaving it as one statement when you remove the parenthetical phrase.

E. Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, although, certainly as home to the stocks of some of the world’s great corporations, restricted their gains.

Again, this option splits the modifier into two parts, which doesn't work.

If we look at the correct option, we see that if we remove the parenthetical statement, it will still work:

A. Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, even though it is certainly home to the stocks of some of the world’s great corporations, restricted their gains.

I hope that clears things up! There are a few different ways you can attack this question, depending on what grammar issues you're more comfortable dealing with. I will go back and add this into my explanation so it can also help others!
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Ujaswin wrote:
GMATNinja can you please advise the right way to eliminate the incorrect answer choices. I was stuck between A & D.



Hello Ujaswin,

Although your question is not addressed to me, here is the reply.


Following is the sentence with Choice D:

Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, which, though certainly home to the stocks of some of the world’s great corporations, restricted their gains.


(Subjects in blue, Verbs in green)

In this choice, there is no verb for the subject which that starts a new clause as restricted is the verb for the subject limiting their investments.


Now let's look at the original sentence:

Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, even though it is certainly home to the stocks of some of the world’s great corporations, restricted their gains.

In this version, all the subjects have their corresponding verbs. The sentence clearly presents the intended meaning of the sentence and hence, is correct.


Hope this helps. :-)
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Ujaswin wrote:
GMATNinja can you please advise the right way to eliminate the incorrect answer choices. I was stuck between A & D.


I too pondered about the issue of the missing Verb in the second part but I was unable to eliminate the possibility of the word restricted acting as a verb.

I guess we can answer this question without delving into the role played by restricted. I feel that this sentence has a very subtle meaning error. The portion that follows which is essential to the meaning as without the essential portion the sentence would imply that the stock market restricted the gains, this implied meeting would be wrong as the way the sentence is structured requires the presence of a slight contrast.



Hello Ujaswin,

Although your question is not addressed to me, here is the reply.


Following is the sentence with Choice D:

Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, which, though certainly home to the stocks of some of the world’s great corporations, restricted their gains.


(Subjects in blue, Verbs in green)

In this choice, there is no verb for the subject which that starts a new clause as restricted is the verb for the subject limiting their investments.


Now let's look at the original sentence:

Many stock traders in the United States have set out to become global investors, convinced that limiting their investments to the U.S. stock market, even though it is certainly home to the stocks of some of the world’s great corporations, restricted their gains.

In this version, all the subjects have their corresponding verbs. The sentence clearly presents the intended meaning of the sentence and hence, is correct.


Hope this helps. :-)
Thanks.
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I too pondered about the issue of the missing Verb in the second part but I was unable to eliminate the possibility of the word restricted acting as a verb.

I guess we can answer this question without delving into the role played by restricted. I feel that this sentence has a very subtle meaning error. The portion that follows which is essential to the meaning as without the essential portion the sentence would imply that the stock market restricted the gains, this implied meeting would be wrong as the way the sentence is structured requires the presence of a slight contrast.



Hello Ujaswin,

I do not quite agree with your analysis. We must not lose focus of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. We cannot neglect the fact that the word restricted acts as a verb in the sentence that must have a logical subject. That logical subject is limiting their investments. Moreover, SV error is one of the easiest errors to identify in any answer choice. It's a blatant error in the GMAT SC section. We cannot oversee it. If an answer choice has this error, we reject it outrightly without any further analysis.


Hope this helps. :-)
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This is a question regarding the non underlined part of the sentence. This is for my understanding of the concepts.

According to the verb-ed modifier concept explained in your blogs, Verb-ed modifier cannot modify the previous clause and take the subject of the previous clause as its subject. So convinced which is a verb - ed modifier must modify the preceding noun global investors.

But in the above question convinced must actually be modifying the many stock traders which happens to be the subject of the preceding clause.

How is this usage justified ?Please shed some light on this issue
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GMATninja Could you please help, in this . Also, IS the construction ,which, always incorrect as it doesnot have a verb?
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yatindra20 wrote:
GMATninja Could you please help, in this . Also, IS the construction ,which, always incorrect as it doesnot have a verb?

There is nothing inherently wrong with using a comma before and after a "which". For example:

"I have a Honda motorcycle, which, despite the brand's reputation for reliability, needs repairs every few months."

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yatindra20 wrote:
GMATninja Could you please help, in this . Also, IS the construction ,which, always incorrect as it doesnot have a verb?

There is nothing inherently wrong with using a comma before and after a "which". For example:

"I have a Honda motorcycle, which, despite the brand's reputation for reliability, needs repairs every few months."

If you are struggling with A vs D, check out this post. And if you still have questions, please let us know what's giving you trouble!

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Thanks for the nice example. +1 for you.
In your example:
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"I have a Honda motorcycle, which, despite the brand's reputation for reliability, needs repairs every few months."

in this example, 'which' and 'despite the brand's reputation for reliability' refer back to 'Honda motorcycle'. So, it's fine.
Sir, i have a what if scenario for this example.
"I have a Honda motorcycle in USA, which, though certainly has 1,143,156 active cases for COVID-19 right away, needs repairs every few months."
^^ in this example, 'though certainly has 1,143,156 active cases for COVID-19 right away' refers to 'USA', but 'which' technically refers to 'Honda motorcycle' because the sentence "I have a Honda motorcycle, which needs repairs every few months." definitely makes sense.
So, is my above sentence right?
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yatindra20 wrote:
GMATninja Could you please help, in this . Also, IS the construction ,which, always incorrect as it doesnot have a verb?

There is nothing inherently wrong with using a comma before and after a "which". For example:

"I have a Honda motorcycle, which, despite the brand's reputation for reliability, needs repairs every few months."

If you are struggling with A vs D, check out this post. And if you still have questions, please let us know what's giving you trouble!

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Thanks for the nice example. +1 for you.
In your example:
GMATNinja wrote:
"I have a Honda motorcycle, which, despite the brand's reputation for reliability, needs repairs every few months."

in this example, 'which' and 'despite the brand's reputation for reliability' refer back to 'Honda motorcycle'. So, it's fine.
Sir, i have a what if scenario for this example.
"I have a Honda motorcycle in USA, which, though certainly has 1,143,156 active cases for COVID-19 right away, needs repairs every few months."
^^ in this example, 'though certainly has 1,143,156 active cases for COVID-19 right away' refers to 'USA', but 'which' technically refers to 'Honda motorcycle' because the sentence "I have a Honda motorcycle, which needs repairs every few months." definitely makes sense.
So, is my above sentence right?
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I don't think you can get away with something like this, unfortunately. We'd expect the "though___" part and the "which" clause to describe the same thing. As written, it seems as though the USA needs repairs. Or that the motorcycle has cases of COVID-19. Neither interpretation makes sense.

It would be a bit better to do something like this: "I have a Honda motorcycle in the USA, which, although the USA has plenty of motorcycle shops, is difficult to maintain." Now it's clear that the USA, not the motorcycle, HAS plenty of motorcycle shops.

Please note that it is rarely a good idea to waste time and energy analyzing made-up or tweaked versions of the answer choices. On the GMAT, your job is to select the BEST answer choice out of the five available options. Looking at a single sentence in a bubble and trying to determine whether it's "correct" or "incorrect" based on grammar "rules" is an entirely different job -- one that you'll never have to do on the GMAT.

I hope that helps!
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