Talk:States Newsroom

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Journalism Low‑importance

	Journalism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Journalism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of journalism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.JournalismWikipedia:WikiProject JournalismTemplate:WikiProject JournalismJournalism articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Organizations Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Organizations, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Organizations on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.OrganizationsWikipedia:WikiProject OrganizationsTemplate:WikiProject Organizationsorganization articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article has been marked as needing an infobox.

proposed deletion

I would submit that this article should not be deleted for lack of notability. The main notability guideline says, "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." And this has multiple sources cited that are independent of the subject.

I came here because I saw an article from the Ohio Capital Journal and I wanted to know what that was. It redirected me to States Newsroom. I can see a legitimate argument that each of these state news organizations doesn't deserve its own article, but not having one article for all of them? They've gotten significant coverage and I'm sure I'm not the only person who wondered what the Ohio Capital Journal, the Minnesota Reformer, etc., are. Pha telegrapher (talk) 18:17, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reliability and UBO

I'm trying to decide whether this source is generally reliable or due, given its unusual viewpoint and funding model. I will collect info here while thinking about this as I came across it.

UBO for Minnesota Reformer:

Business Insider: on local protests, on local Boogaloo events,
AP News: on George Floyd mural defacement, on political malarkey
MinnPost: [1] MinnPost notes two big stories broken by MR and mentions that one MR reporter has been on a consistent local beat... generally quite a few local stories sourced to MR
Politico: on local marijuana policy
Vice: [2] heavy reliance for a local homelessness story

Looks like MR is quite solid. Usually it is attributed and linked. Jlevi (talk) 22:35, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What is UBO? Marquardtika (talk) 22:57, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:UBO. The general idea is that if reliable sources reference a source, it provides a (minor, loose) indicator about the weight and reliability of that referenced source. So, AP News will probably never reference Mike's Fake News Emporium, but it will probably reference the NYT or Fox News where necessary. That gives a minor positive indicator of the reliability of those two sources.

Now, much better indicators of reliability include 1) reliable sources explicitly discussing the source in questions, or 2) indications of a transparent, rigorous editorial process at the source. Anything else I could help out with? Jlevi (talk) 23:40, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, got it. Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense. Re. Minnesota Reformer, IIRC they broke some stories about Jim Hagedorn in the last few months. I remember seeing discussion of the stories they broke (with credit to Minnesota Reformer) in other media outlets, like MinnPost and the Star Tribune. Marquardtika (talk) 01:41, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I read Minnesota Reformer daily. They frequently break important stories focused on the state and have solid reporters on staff. Other news outlets pick up their stories often, including in my local newspaper, which doesn't have reporters at the state capitol. I think it's highly inaccurate to link States Newsroom, which is filling a statehouse reporting gap, to pink slime. Yes, their editorials lean left but their reporting standards are traditional and solid. I got to this article because I found "states newroom" on my credit card statement. Soon realized my monthly contribution is handled at the national level for the Reformer. But I would have been really confused if I didn't already know these are real news outlets, not fabricated junk created to fool people and collect ad revenue. Itsagazornum (talk) 18:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]