Talk:Manasser Biset

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Source...[edit]

-- Ealdgyth (talk) 16:30, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, this doesn't actually have anything useful for Manasser ... interesting though. Ealdgyth (talk) 13:55, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Gog the Mild (talk · contribs) 01:10, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have a look at this. Gog the Mild (talk) 01:10, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Link Anglo-Norman, justice.
- Linked. -- Ealdgyth (talk) 14:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Is Cany Cany-Barville?
- It appears so - linked. -- Ealdgyth (talk) 14:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Pugh: for consistency, could "canons" have an upper case C?
- Done. -- Ealdgyth (talk) 14:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Is it worth linking "follower" to retinue? And "steward" to Steward (office)?
- Linked steward - but he wasn't really in a "retinue" ... he just was a supporter of Henry II before he took the throne. -- Ealdgyth (talk) 14:52, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Biset's son was Henry Bisset" → 'They had a son, named Henry Bisset'.
- Well, no. We can't say "They had a son" because the source says "His [Manasser] son and heir was Henry Biset" - which pretty much says we don't have a charter that definitely gives Alice as Henry's mother. I did tweak the wording a bit. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Besides his son, Biset also had a daughter, Margaret." → 'Besides their son, Biset and Alice also had a daughter, Margaret.'
- Likewise - the source here doesn't say that Margaret was Alice's daughter, just that she was Henry's sister. -- Ealdgyth (talk) 14:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Pugh & Crittall: they are given as editors. Is that of the article or the volume? In either case is hte actual author of the work known?
- the page for British History Online for the work doesn't list authors ... just editors. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's all I have. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:17, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- Hope it wasn't too much of a strain! He's not got a lot but he's a link in various bits of history - and important in his own right as a pretty influential justice. It's just the period is sparse for documentation. -- Ealdgyth (talk) 14:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! It was very soothing. I often feel I have problems, but you seem to be making bricks without either mud or straw.

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