Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NASCAR lore

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The result was delete. Tone 07:45, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

NASCAR lore[edit]

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See previous deletion discussions for MLS, NHL and NFL. Indiscriminate collection of OR with no clear inclusion criteria. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 06:29, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 06:29, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Motorsport-related deletion discussions. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 06:29, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment/Notes - I had a proposal way back that would also bundled removal of "lore" sections from NASCAR on TV templates, but I got no definite lead/consensus on that part, hence I didn't go ahead with that. FMecha (to talk|to see log) 14:12, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @FMecha: I would be in favour of removing the lore sections from all of those templates; in addition to the same reasons I bring up in this nom they make all of them look far too cluttered, and Wikipedia is not a TV guide. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 00:28, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. I think an overview article of the history of NASCAR is warranted, but this is just a willy-nilly collection of things, with a lot of original research and highly subjective decisions. Perhaps a lot of this could be merged into relevant season, race, driver, etc articles also. At the very least this article requires a serious discussion about what its scope should be, and how it should be arranged ("Honorable mention"... really!?). A7V2 (talk) 07:55, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments/Notes: This article was created in the same spirit as NFL lore, etc. However, as those have been deleted, this one should follow suit and be deleted as well. Of note, it has not been well maintained, and it has bloated beyond usefulness. As many might say, not everything is "lore". Doctorindy↔Talk 13:30, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge sourced information to relevant articles and then redirect to Nascar or another appropriate location - There is a decent amount of well-sourced information here which should be kept, however it is currently structured as a collection of indiscriminate information. Most of the information here should be included in articles on the specific teams, cars, drivers, tracks, or events in question. Right now this article seems to feature a lot of editorialising and synthesis in terms of defining what counts as "Nascar lore". HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 09:21, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - WP:INDISCRIMINATE collection of anecdotes, that don't actually have any sources describing what "NASCAR Lore" is, or why any of these examples fall into that category. While some of the individual stories are sourced, there are no sources on the actual overall concept of the the article's topic, making the whole basis of the article WP:OR and this collection of factoids WP:SYNTH. I'm honestly not sure if any kind of merging is even necessary - glancing through several of these, it seems like the actual notable incidents are already covered on the various articles on the events or individuals they were about. At best, this might be able to be moved to Draft if someone wants to sift through it to see if there is anything worth merging, but the article should not remain in the mainspace. Rorshacma (talk) 17:29, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.