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Please do not move articles solely because of "official transliteration", there is something called [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. For example Georgiy Gongadze is the common name, not Heorhii Gongadze. In such cases [[WP:RM]] is probably the best option anyway. And please do not use spellings that do not correspond to the article titles. There is no good reason to use "Lukašenka" instead of "Lukashenko" when the article is [[Alexander Lukashenko]]. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk|talk]]) 18:41, 22 February 2023 (UTC) |
Please do not move articles solely because of "official transliteration", there is something called [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. For example Georgiy Gongadze is the common name, not Heorhii Gongadze. In such cases [[WP:RM]] is probably the best option anyway. And please do not use spellings that do not correspond to the article titles. There is no good reason to use "Lukašenka" instead of "Lukashenko" when the article is [[Alexander Lukashenko]]. [[User:Mellk|Mellk]] ([[User talk:Mellk|talk]]) 18:41, 22 February 2023 (UTC) |
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I think you have got it something wrong about [[WP:COMMONNAME]], and should read it again; it stipulates no reason to represent an |
I think you have got it something wrong about [[WP:COMMONNAME]], and should read it again; it stipulates no reason to represent an incorrectly written name, but for exampel in some cases another name that is just an abbreviation of his actual name. The fact is that many in Western media write names incorrectly based on pronunciation or use the names which are not the actual versions of that person's name in his language or in some cases here on Wikipedia spread unkowningly Russian imperialism with Russian transliterations due to the still lingering impact of that imperialism on Western sources. Do we write "Kiev" or "Kyiv", because there should be a pretty strong case for the former in that case. Search Heorhii Gongadze in Google Search and almost all Ukrainian Enhlish sources nowadays use that version which is the correct one base on official Ukrainian Latin script. Additionally, [https://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/182861 OSCE], one of world's most authoritative organisations use "Heorhii" as well as [https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CRECB-2000-pt15/html/CRECB-2000-pt15-Pg21828-2.htm Ukrainian government] themselves The same way Lukašenka is official in Belarus Latin script, although Belarus being still de facto occupied by Russians isn't helping the case currently, but will surely be changed in the case of ceasation, looking at current developments, as was "Kiev" changed to "Kyiv" alongside other Ukrainian names back in the day. For that reason nobody has yet changed Lukashenka's name, but nobody bans to use that name inside the body of the article, be it sporadically, as per [[WP:COMMONNAME]] examples. Hope this helps. [[User:Saksapoiss|Saksapoiss]] ([[User talk:Saksapoiss#top|talk]]) 04:01, 23 February 2023 (UTC) |
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Please do not move articles solely because of "official transliteration", there is something called WP:COMMONNAME. For example Georgiy Gongadze is the common name, not Heorhii Gongadze. In such cases WP:RM is probably the best option anyway. And please do not use spellings that do not correspond to the article titles. There is no good reason to use "Lukašenka" instead of "Lukashenko" when the article is Alexander Lukashenko. Mellk (talk) 18:41, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
I think you have got it something wrong about WP:COMMONNAME, and should read it again; it stipulates no reason to represent an incorrectly written name, but for exampel in some cases another name that is just an abbreviation of his actual name. The fact is that many in Western media write names incorrectly based on pronunciation or use the names which are not the actual versions of that person's name in his language or in some cases here on Wikipedia spread unkowningly Russian imperialism with Russian transliterations due to the still lingering impact of that imperialism on Western sources. Do we write "Kiev" or "Kyiv", because there should be a pretty strong case for the former in that case. Search Heorhii Gongadze in Google Search and almost all Ukrainian Enhlish sources nowadays use that version which is the correct one base on official Ukrainian Latin script. Additionally, OSCE, one of world's most authoritative organisations use "Heorhii" as well as Ukrainian government themselves The same way Lukašenka is official in Belarus Latin script, although Belarus being still de facto occupied by Russians isn't helping the case currently, but will surely be changed in the case of ceasation, looking at current developments, as was "Kiev" changed to "Kyiv" alongside other Ukrainian names back in the day. For that reason nobody has yet changed Lukashenka's name, but nobody bans to use that name inside the body of the article, be it sporadically, as per WP:COMMONNAME examples. Hope this helps. Saksapoiss (talk) 04:01, 23 February 2023 (UTC)