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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by LiliCharlie (talk | contribs) at 11:16, 5 July 2020 (→‎Add Noto Sans to font stack?). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Add Noto Sans to font stack?

Most of the dotted circles in the table with diacritics show up as crossed boxes on my Android phone. I'm not sure why since it doesn't affect all of them, but I believe that adding Noto Sans to the font stack for whatever style those templates apply should fix the issue. BPJ (talk) 09:41, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is no "font stack"; the phonetic symbols differ from other text only insofar as they are given the .IPA class. You may specify a font for the class in your custom CSS (see Template:IPA for more). Nardog (talk) 09:58, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I just tried and it appears to not work. I reset the cache but no improvement. BPJ (talk) 10:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see now that the problem appears with combining marks but not with modifier letters so probably a rendering issue. BPJ (talk) 10:06, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's an issue with the font. Try Noto Serif (or simply font-family: serif;) and see if it works. Nardog (talk) 10:30, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
At this point Noto Sans fonts can hardly be recommended, for the current release versions still contain several bugs that concern IPA: badly scaled glyphs for modifier letters, wrong glyphs for contour tones, and ineffective lookups for Greek letters in phonetic notation. The latter bug is also a reminder for our template programmers that it is not enough to add .IPA class markup to our source text. In order to prevent smart fonts (not only Noto fonts) from selecting glyphs for Greek when specially designed glyphs for IPA are available a valid IETF language tag should be added, probably <span lang="und-Latn-fonipa">...</span> (undefined language; Latin script; IPA). Note that the Unicode standard considers IPA a subset (writing system) of the Latin script though a few Greek letters are used, and see https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry for the subtag definitions. Love —LiliCharlie (talk) 11:15, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]