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Kyo Hisagi



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:00 am Reply with quote
Hey guys, I think I should ask it here.
Any suggestions on "how to draw manga" books? I am interested in creating my own story but I used to learn how to draw superhero comics, not manga. Topics I want to learn about: anatomy, clothes, backgrounds, usage of manga studio/photoshop etc. I've read a few books like Christopher Hart's but I want something more professional.
I will be grateful for any advices!
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he recommends looking at both Akira Toriyama and the works of Leonardo da Vinci

As someone who has always been a fan of Toriyama, this is the highest form of vindication possible.
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Kyo Hisagi wrote:
Hey guys, I think I should ask it here.
Any suggestions on "how to draw manga" books? I am interested in creating my own story but I used to learn how to draw superhero comics, not manga. Topics I want to learn about: anatomy, clothes, backgrounds, usage of manga studio/photoshop etc. I've read a few books like Christopher Hart's but I want something more professional.
I will be grateful for any advices!


Hi, there! As someone whose bought her fair share of "how-to" manga books, I feel I can offer some advice. Personally, I've always liked the "How to draw Manga" books that have been translated from Japanese. They are published by Graphic-sha and were very prevalent in the late 90's, early 2000's. I'm not sure they're actually publishing any new ones in English here lately. But you can still find them but some may be out of print/ difficult to find and/ or expensive. But I've managed to collect a whole bunch and are about $20 new. It might be hard to find them in bookstores, but I got most of mine from Amazon and used bookstores.

The only drawback is some of the advice is Japanese-specific. But most of them are quite good. As for Chris Hart, I agree his manga books aren't that great but his basic drawing guides are alright. I also follow some manga style artists online. Some of them, like Mark Crilley, publish their own "how to" books. Finally, I'd definitely recommend Araki's book that was reviewed here and I've purchased myself. It doesn't give you any drawing instructions but it does offers great creative advice!
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Shay Guy



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:53 pm Reply with quote
This sounds like it'd be a worthwhile addition to my collection.
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reanimator



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:18 am Reply with quote
Kyo Hisagi wrote:
Hey guys, I think I should ask it here.
Any suggestions on "how to draw manga" books? I am interested in creating my own story but I used to learn how to draw superhero comics, not manga. Topics I want to learn about: anatomy, clothes, backgrounds, usage of manga studio/photoshop etc. I've read a few books like Christopher Hart's but I want something more professional.
I will be grateful for any advices!


Kyo Hisagi,
There is not much difference between drawing superheroes and manga characters at fundamental level. They're just two unique ways to draw good ol' human figures. It's good that you want to learn how to draw anatomy, background, and et cetra. In my opinion you really don't need those how-to-manga books to draw anatomy, BG, and etc when there are already tons of great fine art drawing books out there. How-to-manga books are more beneficial if you want to develop particular illustration techinques and software unique to manga, but I don't think you need how-to-manga book to learn basic art fundamentals of anatomy and others.

Most important things is: How do you want to develop your visual narrative? That's what comic/manga is about, isn't it? Most people are just content with drawing character(s) in their preferred style and that's the end of it. Those how-to-draw-manga books are just demonstrating techniques how to draw stuffs like people and objects, but they don't discuss in depth on how to set up a series of drawings to create a coherent visual narrative. At least we're finally getting a book from a pro artists like Araki that explores nooks and cranny of making interesting visual narrative.

On serious note, DO YOU DRAW everyday? No one is expecting you to draw like a master artist, but being able to draw basic art enables you to express your vision on paper more freely than not knowing anything. You've said that you used to draw superhero comics so at least you have leverage to put your vision on paper. It may not be "manga style", but at least you can put your idea on paper more clearly.

We have modern convenience of internet and smartphone camera for reference that would make old generation manga/comic artists envious. You can get like 20 volumes of how-to-draw-manga books, but they're not going to help you if you're not willing to put effort.
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Juno016



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I've submitted to SJ's international contest and self-published my own doujinshi in Japan, which sold a decent amount for a first time. There is a lot that goes into marketing a story through its narrative and visuals without straying from any sense of substance. It's fun, though, to let your imagination weave the story before you modify it.

Kyo Hisagi,

My first recommendation for anyone trying to get human anatomy down is Posemaniacs.com, a free website with a bunch of 3D models of humans in different poses to use for reference when practicing. The best option on the site for practice is the 30-second drawing tool. It cycles through poses and your objective is to draw those poses as complete as possible before the time limit. The time limit can be adjusted, but I recommend keeping it to 30 seconds or, at the most, 45 seconds. And do NOT look at your drawing as you do it. It's a muscle-memory workout and your eyes should focus on mapping the image. Your drawings will not look like actual things for a while, but you can toss the paper out when you're done, anyway. You're not creating art. You're practicing how to make bigger strokes and get shapes down on the human body. I do about 15-20 cycles a day (8-10 minutes).
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Yuza



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:35 pm Reply with quote
Kyo Hisagi wrote:
Hey guys, I think I should ask it here.
Any suggestions on "how to draw manga" books? I am interested in creating my own story but I used to learn how to draw superhero comics, not manga. Topics I want to learn about: anatomy, clothes, backgrounds, usage of manga studio/photoshop etc. I've read a few books like Christopher Hart's but I want something more professional.
I will be grateful for any advices!


TL:DR;
The Silent Manga Audition. The documentary series Manben. Details vs. Flow In Manga Panels - Digibro, Youtube Channel.

It's mentioned in the review but most people will just say you have to learn how to draw in classical/realistic style. You don't need to be ultra-realistic but you have to be able to accurately portray reality before you distort it.

There's no real "manga style" in the first place, since the word is just Japanese for comics and not an art style. Each mangakas has their own style, but most can draw fairly realistically - style is just omitting or exaggerating details (eg. a lot of mangaka don't draw the noise and just do a little shading, and artists like Boichi exaggerate muscles). Drawing manga/comics just requires regular art skills, as well as the ability to tell a story through sequential art.

A good idea is to learn a bit about manga tools and then read manga, but break down the art as you read it. Try to figure out what type of pens they used, what type and how much screentone they used, the reasons why they did it and stuff like that. There are a few tutorials online that will demonstrate some of the equipment, but I'd recommend to watch the documentary series "Manben" from Naoki Urasawa, the author of "Manben", which has footage of mangaka working. You'll see that they all work with different equipment and techniques which you may want to copy, or come up with ideas for your own style.

To learn more about sequential art The Silent Manga Audition channel on youtube has a lot of tutorials on how to write and storyboard manga. One of the most important things is that manga pages are supposed to be read two at a time - and not just for double spreads. Most webtoons, scanlations and webcomics miss the point of that, but on Shounen Jump's website they make sure readers read it two pages at a time. They also have a contest on their website you can submit to which gives information on the size of paper they prefer and other small details.

Some things I've noticed that differentiates Japanese manga from American comics is that manga uses a lot of screentone or just does gray scale. They aren't coloured because manga are drawn faster and printed cheaper. Screentones are used for shading, texture, to show characters moods (usually in Shoujo manga) and direct the reader's eyes (take a look at Haikyuu! for examples).

Manga also generally use nib pens, though this is highly individual. But Shounen manga are usually drawn with a G pen while Shoujo use softer pens. If you're drawing digitally it doesn't matter so much, but the thickness of the lines says a lot about the world of your manga/comic.

There's also a lot of super-deformity and cartooning effects. You can find a list of them on Japanese visual tropes on TV tropes, these are shorthand effects like Superhero comics' "Kirby Crackle". In American comics the art is usually always striving for consistency, but manga often have a lot more freedom in their expression and are more willing to do cartoony stuff. Even in a grimdark, realistically drawn story like Berserk there are panels with a lot less details which are meant to be funny, usually for the comic relief characters. There's a Youtube video called "Details vs. Flow" shows how humour in manga depends on how much detail you put into it. The reverse is also true - really big, dramatic panels are often very realistic. For example, Hunter x Hunter usually looks pretty cartoony but in dramatic moments the shading is very detailed and realistic.
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