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== Community ban proposal - [[User:Zsfgseg]] ==

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{{discussion-top|1=The consensus is very clear. <font color="005522">[[User:SheffieldSteel|S<small>HEFFIELD</small>S<small>TEEL</small>]]</font><sup><small><b>[[User_talk:SheffieldSteel|TALK]]</b></small></sup> 17:04, 15 June 2010 (UTC)}}
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''see also'': [[:Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Zsfgseg]]
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This user was initially blocked for vandalizing AN/I. Since that block he has repeatedly evaded his block, wanting a second chance (which is always denied because (a) his registered socks share the same name, and (b) he goes right back to the same behavior that got him blocked). Even more recently, he's been resorting to pestering me on IRC, seeking an unblock (usually after one of his socks gets caught), but today he followed up an IRC PM with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:J%C3%A9sk%C3%A9_Couriano&diff=367532071&oldid=367481016 this post] to my talk page.
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It is clear to me that he flat-out ''does not get it'', and his repeated communication with me is starting to border on harassment. I am seeking a community ban against him for these reasons. —<font color="228B22">''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jeremy]]''</font> <font color="00008B"><sup>([[User talk:Jéské Couriano|v^_^v]] [[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Dittobori]])</sup></font> 02:03, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
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* '''Support Ban''' There's no excuse for that behavior and it's obvious he's just here to screw around, play games and act a fool. I think he DOES get it: this person has no desire to edit but gets his jollies by playing this game. [[User:Kindzmarauli|Kindzmarauli]] ([[User talk:Kindzmarauli|talk]]) 05:51, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support''' per above and his attempt to remove this discussion[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=367658259] -- [[User:AnmaFinotera|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342FF'>AnmaFinotera</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AnmaFinotera|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/AnmaFinotera|contribs]]) 20:55, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
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**<small>IP is now blocked. [[User talk:TFOWR|<b style="color:#000">TFOWR</b>]] 21:00, 12 June 2010 (UTC)</small>
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*'''Support''' – Just formally ban him already; he's virtually ''de facto'' banned, anyways, as no admin in their right mind would even consider unblocking. –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 21:15, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support''': Considered this yesterday, decided to sleep on it, no change of heart. Removing this discussion (per AnmaFinotera, above) suggests an ongoing wish to be destructive. Second chance comes ''after'' demonstrating an ability and desire to be ''constructive''. [[User talk:TFOWR|<b style="color:#000">TFOWR</b>]] 10:21, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support'''; better to make this formal for the sake of clarity, if not anything else - the behavior is not acceptable. [[User:Ncmvocalist|Ncmvocalist]] ([[User talk:Ncmvocalist|talk]]) 14:16, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Note''': [[special:contributions/71.249.105.53|Another user]] has been blocked for attempting to remove this discussion. [[User:Excirial|<font color="191970">'''Excirial''']]</font><sup> ([[User talk:Excirial|<font color="FF8C00">Contact me</font>]],[[Special:Contributions/Excirial|<font color="FF8C00">Contribs</font>]])</sup> 20:11, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support Ban''' completly unacceptable behavior, reinforced by this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.249.105.53 last bout of socking]. [[User:Dreadstar|Dreadstar]] <small>[[User talk:Dreadstar|<span class="Unicode">☥</span>]]</small> 20:18, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support''' ban. Although per MuZemike, he's basically ''de facto'' banned. But, repeated socking, inappropriate behavior, and that I haven't seen any constructive edits from any of the accounts or IPs are good enough reasons for me. <span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px"><b><font color="#4682B4">[[User:Elockid|<big>E</big>lockid]]</font></b></span> <sup>(<font color="#99BADD">[[User talk:Elockid|Talk]]</font>)</sup> 20:36, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Note''' – I have blocked 71.249.0.0/17 for 24 hours his continued disruption and [[WP:EVADE|block evasion]] here and on [[WP:ANI]]. –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 20:38, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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::...and again for 55. –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 01:51, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support''', obviously. <font color="#FFB911">╟─[[User:TreasuryTag|Treasury]][[User talk:TreasuryTag|Tag]]►[[Special:Contributions/TreasuryTag|<span style="cursor:help;">presiding officer</span>]]─╢</font> 20:50, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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* '''Support ban''' – Clearly a lier who purposely wants another chance, just because the user wants to continue to vandalize. By the way, what do you mean with "community ban"? [[User:Heymid|Heymid]] ([[User talk:Heymid|talk]]) 20:53, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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: '''Comment.''' A community ban is a type of ban when you have been practically ostracized here. Like others said here, community-banned people have no chance being accepted again as normal WP editors, not after all the damage they have done. --[[User:Eaglestorm|Eaglestorm]] ([[User talk:Eaglestorm|talk]]) 15:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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* '''Support ban''' - from the IP evasion I've seen just today I'm happy for this to go ahead, and per the other supports above. [[User:SGGH|S.G.<sup><small>(GH)</small></sup>]] <sub>[[User_talk:SGGH|ping!]]</sub> 23:14, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support ban''' - this kind of disruption warrants nothing other than this kind of remedy. Volunteer time cannot be wasted by behaviour like this and so it needs to simply be prevented--[[User:Cailil|<font color="#999999" size="2">'''Cailil'''</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Cailil|<font color="#999999">'''talk'''</font>]]</sup> 23:58, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
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:: Consensus seems clear to me, I have tagged the account and added to the List of banned users. [[User:Kindzmarauli|Kindzmarauli]] ([[User talk:Kindzmarauli|talk]]) 03:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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:::If no one's willing to unblock him, it's unnecessary to go through this rigamarole.—[[User:Ryulong|<font color="blue">Ryūlóng</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryulong|<font color="Gold">竜龙</font>]])
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::::Apologies for pimping this every chance I get, but for editors dealing with clean-up, this is necessary: per [[WP:3RR]] reverting an indef'd editor can result in a block for a good-faith editor. A community ban changes that. There is value in a community ban over an indef-block-with-no-admin-prepared-to-unblock. [[User talk:TFOWR|<b style="color:#000">TFOWR</b>]] 14:44, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support ban''' He's just screwing around, Wikipedia is not his play-place. <font face="Segoe Print">[[User:TTTSNB|<font color=#0040B0>The Thing]] <small>//</small> [[User talk:TTTSNB|<font color=#007080>Talk]] <small>//</small> [[Special:Contributions/The Thing That Should Not Be|<font color=#00A050>Contribs]]</span> 04:14, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support ban''' per all of the above. The IP Address blanking this section is evidently the same person, still willing to evade their ban and try to stop this process. &nbsp; — <font size="4">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff]] [[User:Jeff G./talk|G. ツ]]</font> 14:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Support''' Clearly his recent hijinx have verified the absolute necessity. ([[User talk:Bwilkins|<font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→</font>]]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;[[User:Bwilkins|BWilkins]]&nbsp;'''</span>[[Special:Contributions/Bwilkins|<font style="font-variant:small-caps">←track</font>]]) 22:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Strongest possible support'''. User is one of the most disruptive, attention-starved individuals I've encountered on this site - the username variations are proof of that since they're all variations on the same dull theme - and I've encountered my fair share. Further support for a possible rangeblock. [[User:PMDrive1061|PMDrive1061]] ([[User talk:PMDrive1061|talk]]) 22:39, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Strong support''' per his history of vandalizeing TTTSNB's talk page as well as my own past experiences with him. His childish acts need to stop and a ban will alow for quicker action on any of his socks.--[[user:White Shadows|<font style="color:#191970">'''White Shadows'''</font>]] <sup>[[user talk:White Shadows|<font style="color:#DC143C">'''stood on the edge'''</font>]]</sup> 01:54, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Strong support''' - and if it is possible to construct a tight-enough rangeblock, I would recommend that too. -- '''''[[User:Phantomsteve|<font color="#307D7E">Phantom</font><font color="#55CAFA">Steve</font>]]'''''/[[User talk:Phantomsteve|<font color="#008000">talk</font>]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Phantomsteve|<font color="#000080">contribs</font>]]\ 15:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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Community ban proposal - User:Zsfgseg

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Zsfgseg (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • GUC • CA)

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see also: Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Zsfgseg

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This user was initially blocked for vandalizing AN/I. Since that block he has repeatedly evaded his block, wanting a second chance (which is always denied because (a) his registered socks share the same name, and (b) he goes right back to the same behavior that got him blocked). Even more recently, he's been resorting to pestering me on IRC, seeking an unblock (usually after one of his socks gets caught), but today he followed up an IRC PM with this post to my talk page.

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It is clear to me that he flat-out does not get it, and his repeated communication with me is starting to border on harassment. I am seeking a community ban against him for these reasons. —Jeremy (v^_^v Dittobori) 02:03, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Support Ban There's no excuse for that behavior and it's obvious he's just here to screw around, play games and act a fool. I think he DOES get it: this person has no desire to edit but gets his jollies by playing this game. Kindzmarauli (talk) 05:51, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Support – Just formally ban him already; he's virtually de facto banned, anyways, as no admin in their right mind would even consider unblocking. –MuZemike 21:15, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Support: Considered this yesterday, decided to sleep on it, no change of heart. Removing this discussion (per AnmaFinotera, above) suggests an ongoing wish to be destructive. Second chance comes after demonstrating an ability and desire to be constructive. TFOWR 10:21, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Support ban. Although per MuZemike, he's basically de facto banned. But, repeated socking, inappropriate behavior, and that I haven't seen any constructive edits from any of the accounts or IPs are good enough reasons for me. Elockid (Talk) 20:36, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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...and again for 55. –MuZemike 01:51, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Support ban – Clearly a lier who purposely wants another chance, just because the user wants to continue to vandalize. By the way, what do you mean with "community ban"? Heymid (talk) 20:53, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment. A community ban is a type of ban when you have been practically ostracized here. Like others said here, community-banned people have no chance being accepted again as normal WP editors, not after all the damage they have done. --Eaglestorm (talk) 15:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Support ban - this kind of disruption warrants nothing other than this kind of remedy. Volunteer time cannot be wasted by behaviour like this and so it needs to simply be prevented--Cailil talk 23:58, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Consensus seems clear to me, I have tagged the account and added to the List of banned users. Kindzmarauli (talk) 03:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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If no one's willing to unblock him, it's unnecessary to go through this rigamarole.—Ryūlóng (竜龙)
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Apologies for pimping this every chance I get, but for editors dealing with clean-up, this is necessary: per WP:3RR reverting an indef'd editor can result in a block for a good-faith editor. A community ban changes that. There is value in a community ban over an indef-block-with-no-admin-prepared-to-unblock. TFOWR 14:44, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Support ban per all of the above. The IP Address blanking this section is evidently the same person, still willing to evade their ban and try to stop this process.   — Jeff G. ツ 14:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Strongest possible support. User is one of the most disruptive, attention-starved individuals I've encountered on this site - the username variations are proof of that since they're all variations on the same dull theme - and I've encountered my fair share. Further support for a possible rangeblock. PMDrive1061 (talk) 22:39, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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