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:Just FYI I wrote this article in 2009 or whenever. I have most of the sources still. [[User:Moni3|Moni3]] ([[User talk:Moni3|talk]]) 16:37, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
::Why is the article in ''GTN Global Travel Industry News'' May 28, 2013 by Linda Hohnholz not to be considered a reliable source? I knew Mr. Boxx whwn he indeed did manage the Stonewall. There is also [http://www.scottfoster.org/GLBT/Stonewall_Remembered.htm this] and [https://aboutscottfoster.wordpress.com/why-gay-pride/ this] and [https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017/04/09/the-stonewall-inn-the-birthplace-of-gay-rights-movement/ this] and [https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2004/06/18/gay-rights-festival-set-in-manors/ this] and [https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2004/06/21/building-on-stonewall/ this] and [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-miami-herald-89-06-24-prid-gays-b/50654688/ this] --[[User:SergeWoodzing|SergeWoodzing]] ([[User talk:SergeWoodzing|talk]]) 07:03, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Because more comprehensive sources, books by historians, have clearly covered the ownership of the Stonewall Inn. Boxx could not have been the owner. The sources clearly state the Mafia owned the bar. Boxx doesn't even appear in the index of David Carter's book. And he appears as a footnote in Duberman's.
:::I cannot explain the discrepancy, other than maybe Stonewall is similar to Woodstock. Lots of people say they were there. Sylvia Rivera and Storme Delarverie both have said they were and weren't there. If Boxx was really a manager of the Stonewall Inn in 1969, maybe he was briefly after the riots, I don't know.
:::Carter gives some detail about the ownership and management, even giving the Mafia nicknames (Matty the Horse, Fat Tony no kidding) and Fat Tony's right-hand man, which I can assume would be the equivalent to a manager, was a guy named Chuck Shaheen according to Carter. Shaheen was a bartender that moved up into a position where he oversaw collecting money, and transferring it to Fat Tony & Co. Carter also discusses the staff at the Stonewall, including waiters he interviewed, and a description of the bathroom attendant. Again, Boxx is never mentioned.
:::For Wikipedia, works by historians are favored over personal interviews. [[User:Moni3|Moni3]] ([[User talk:Moni3|talk]]) 18:22, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
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