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== Stuff that's missing in current version ==
The article lacks context, in that it doesn't mention that long-distance phone calls used to be darned expensive! In the 1960s a 10-minute direct dial transcontinental phone call, carried by the AT&T monopoly, would cost $20 in 1960s dollars, or in gold terms, half an ounce of gold. The history of phreaking as mentioned in the article doesn't start until after MCI began competing with AT&T Long Lines for long distance service. The article also fails to mention the former numbering system for AT&T telephone credit cards, which consisted of a seven digit phone number, a three digit number corresponding to your calling area (NY was "021") and then a letter which differed according to the last digit of the phone number. The letter codes were widely shared, for example in 1960s 'underground' newspapers, and phreaks would then bill the calls to bogus AT&T credit card numbers. Phreaking, or more properly its subset toll fraud, resulted from 1) the high cost of calls; and 2) public hatred of the Bell monopoly. Another subset of phreaking was the practice of installing unauthorized telephone extensions! Until about 1975 phones were manufactured by AT&T subsidiary Western Electric and were always rented, never sold. If you wanted a second telephone in your home, you had to pay for its installation, as well as several dollars a month for its rental! 1975 was also about the time the RJ-11 modular phone jack was invented -- prior to that telephones were 'installed' by permanently attaching them to the junction box with wires that were screwed into a terminal block. [[User:Mbstone|Mbstone]] ([[User talk:Mbstone|talk]]) 09:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
This article should have a reference to the new book by Phil Lapsley, Exploding the Phone, which covers the early history of phone phreaking, circa 1958-1975. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.79.63.154|173.79.63.154]] ([[User talk:173.79.63.154|talk]]) 19:19, 4 February 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Glaring error ==
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For those of you that remember Scavenger's Dialer, Scavenger passed away sadly in a car accident on 6 Feb 2002. [[User:Afekz|Afekz]] 16:14, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
:Fuck. That's for real? i been dreaming and playing a lot from Argentina, really nice times. Thanks to this guy. [[Special:Contributions/201.178.55.8|201.178.55.8]] ([[User talk:201.178.55.8|talk]]) 04:35, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
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The end of MF? Come on, that doesn't really fit here. I <3 you Lucky but this is ridiculous!
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[[User:Mbstone|Mbstone]] ([[User talk:Mbstone|talk]]) 09:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
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So was I red boxing pay phones back in '68 and '69? They used dings for dimes and dongs for quarters, as you mentioned. As a sixteen-year-old, I tape recorded a bunch of dongs and played them back for the operator on request. Under the phone's small "table" was a connection box. I used alligator clips from that to my portable Sony cassette player's output line (and clips also to record the dongs). I found it frightening telling the operator to keep the change, but for some reason they often got a chuckle out of that.
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Something I tried only once, but got caught was even easier. It's not mentioned here. Just alligator clip your "found" phone to any outside connection box you may find. (Because phones were un-ownable, in those days they were often abandoned when moving, etc, then found by others.)
Doug B--[[Special:Contributions/68.127.87.34|68.127.87.34]] ([[User talk:68.127.87.34|talk]]) 17:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Captain Bizzaro aka John Marshall ==
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[http://www.area51.org.il/~zaphodb/bluebox/ Sampling of an international boxed call, bluebox plans and software for Atari ST/STE Bluebox as well as some known PC blueboxing programs from back in the days.] <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ZaphodB-SE|ZaphodB-SE]] ([[User talk:ZaphodB-SE|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ZaphodB-SE|contribs]]) 07:33, 11 September 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Yes what about the program called whitebox from australia .. that used CCITT5 (R2) tones to make calls that was similar to blue box <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Phreaker007|Phreaker007]] ([[User talk:Phreaker007|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Phreaker007|contribs]]) 06:46, 20 November 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Exploration of the telephone network ==
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Notable phreaks would include others like Erik Bloodaxe. The three listed above do not have independent articles written about them. The criteria of having given Defcon talks is not enough to be notable. Defcon has notoriously low criteria for acceptance. In contrast, many of the other phreaks listed as famous in this article have had multiple independent books written about them. For example, mainstream journalists [[John Markoff]] and [[Katie Hafner]] have written about Justin Petersen and Kevin Mitnick. -- [[User:Sidfilter|Sidfilter]] ([[User talk:Sidfilter|talk]]) 04:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC) sidfilter
RedBoxChiliPepper is notable. He wrote a lot of humorous TXT files and promoted phreaking. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/110.174.108.127|110.174.108.127]] ([[User talk:110.174.108.127|talk]]) 20:36, 13 October 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== What is going on in this article? ==
This article does not actually explain what phreaking is, nor does it actually explain what these people do/have done. Its like a essay without an opening paragraph.
[[Special:Contributions/174.114.87.236|174.114.87.236]] ([[User talk:174.114.87.236|talk]]) 19:49, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
== Switch hook and tone dialer ==
This was introduced to me in the 1980's as 'tapping' and was known as that throughout the UK and Australia as far as I am aware. During many phone conversations with phreaks in the US I found that tapping was also the common term for it. Perhaps this should be added, but I am not inclined to do so myself as I cbf'd making an account due to wikidramu and admin banathons that occur here. Just thought I'd drop in a tip off. <3 [[Special:Contributions/121.217.137.98|121.217.137.98]] ([[User talk:121.217.137.98|talk]]) 23:06, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
== UK Phreaking ==
Would this be the right place to describe non-US phone phreaking? I believe that during the late 60s and early 70s the London telephone system could be phreaked by dialing GUL 06 followed by the first two digits of the number you required (usuallu the area or international access code) ... wait for a click and then finish dialing. This was a strowger system not a tone-based system. It was a mechanism for operators on one exchange to route calls via another if their local system developed a trunk fault. The Post Office would put a printer on this circuit and sometimes call the dialed number to see if they could find the culprits ... who usually called from telephone boxes (ie pay phones in the street). Other UK methods dating from strowger days include hop-dialing ... chaining local access codes to dial long distance (would give very poor lines) and, as Subscriber Trunk Dialing was being rolled out, using a local access code to reach an STD exchange, get new dial tone, and dialing out again. Anyone have sources for such things? [[User:Delverie|Delverie]] ([[User talk:Delverie|talk]]) 13:18, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
:This is definitely the proper article for such an addition. I had no idea there was such capabilities and misdesigns in the UK phone system. What is "GUL 06"? Is that a special signal, or something that anyone could dial? —[[user:EncMstr|EncMstr]] ([[user talk:EncMstr|talk]]) 16:06, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
GUL 06 was the start of a number on the London Gulliver exchange. Sorry, I didn't make that clear. (London numbers at the time were a three letter exchange code, usually from a name like Mayfair or Langham, followed by a four digit number.) A basic seven digit urban phone number that anyone could dial in fact. So to dial through to 765 4321 you would dial 485 0676 ... wait for click ... 54321. I think this would only work within the London (then 01) director area although you could dial to anywhere on the automatic network. International dialling was limited at the time but I did see someone dial New York (automatic weather report) just to prove it worked. [[User:Delverie|Delverie]] ([[User talk:Delverie|talk]]) 10:19, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
== Alaska ==
“The last 2600 controlled trunk in the continental United States was operated by the independent Northern Telephone Company with an N2 Carrier system serving Wawina, MN until June 15th, 2006 when it was replaced by T1 carrier[14]. The last 2600 controlled trunks in North America were located in Livengood, AK and survived a further 5 years, being finally retired in March, 2011.” How is Alaska not “continental United States”? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Gidoca|Gidoca]] ([[User talk:Gidoca|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Gidoca|contribs]]) 21:54, 4 May 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I think it should be [[contiguous United States]], not [[continental United States]], but the redirect from the latter suggests that this is commonly confused term. Indeed, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Continental_United_States&oldid=271502613 next older version, before the redirect] indicates that Alaskans and "Lower-48ers" had divergent use of the terms. —[[user:EncMstr|EncMstr]] ([[user talk:EncMstr|talk]]) 22:25, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
::Ah, yes, that makes sense. I changed it now to read "contiguous". --[[User:Gidoca|Gidoca]] ([[User talk:Gidoca|talk]]) 11:03, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
== Merger proposal ([[Phone hacking]]) ==
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The result of the proposal was '''not merged'''--[[User:KTo288|KTo288]] ([[User talk:KTo288|talk]]) 18:29, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
:[[Phreaking]] and [[Phone hacking]] are ostensibly the same thing. Difference being, phreaking tends to focus more on the origin, use of tone dialing; whereas modern day phreaking would be more similar to hacking .. or phone-hacking.[[User:David Condrey|David Condrey]] ([[User talk:David Condrey|talk]]) 21:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
:I completely disagree. The Phone Hacking article is about a spying concept, using telephone technology to steal information. Phreaking was the manipulation of telephone call routing through means other than prescribed by the telephone company and their equipment design. There was no malicious intent to receive data or information other than that necessary (codes and jargon) necessary to place further phone calls. Essentially the content of the call was far less important than the ability to make the connection. [[User:Trackinfo|Trackinfo]] ([[User talk:Trackinfo|talk]]) 22:57, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
:'''Don't Merge'''. As [[User:Trackinfo|Trackinfo]] has remarked, there's an obvious difference. Phreakers were concerned with the system itself, while phone hackers are principally concerned with the data that's stored on the system. [[User:RomanSpa|RomanSpa]] ([[User talk:RomanSpa|talk]]) 07:10, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
:'''Don't Merge'''. Indeed, they are different subjects; they are, however, related. Does it make sense to merge both of them into [[Telephone network]]? (Currently a stub). Also I think that [[Phishing#History]] is large enough to be its own article and should be summarized in Phishing with a <nowiki>{{main|History of Phishing}}</nowiki>.[[User:Softtest123|Softtest123]] ([[User talk:Softtest123|talk]]) 06:06, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
:'''Don't Merge'''. [[Phone hacking]] is against customers, [[Phreaking]] is against vendors. I added distinction hatnotes.
*{{About|the manipulation of telephone call routing|the use of telephone technology to steal information|Phone hacking}}
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== Garbled ==
The person who wrote "To report that a phone call was long distance meant an elevated importance universally accepted as, the calling party is paying by the minute to speak to the called party; transact business quickly." might have known what they meant, but I don't! [[Special:Contributions/86.155.0.191|86.155.0.191]] ([[User talk:86.155.0.191|talk]]) 16:37, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
:Feel free to rewrite. Back in the day, the phrase "its long distance." meant "This is important enough this person is paying a lot of money, by the minute, to talk to you now! No time to screw around." Convey that in a better sentence. [[User:Trackinfo|Trackinfo]] ([[User talk:Trackinfo|talk]]) 17:52, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
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== 2600 Hertz ==
2600 Hertz is given a subsection under History and it's own section (the only one other than history). I recommend combining them, but since it's a somewhat significant change and there's a chance it is the way it is for a reason, I wanted to suggest it here instead of unilaterally changing it as my first edit on the topic. [[User:Themikebest|TheMikeBest]] ([[User talk:Themikebest|talk]]) 14:17, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
:I don't see an issue, 2600 does not stand out as a formatting issue. It is the logical second of the steps in the development of phreaking, hook switch, 2600 Hz (or single frequency), then multiple frequency. The prose following the subsection is not written in such an elemental fashion, perhaps that might be better explained, but the subheaders are fairly appropriate. [[User:Trackinfo|Trackinfo]] ([[User talk:Trackinfo|talk]]) 14:41, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
::I agree that it belongs under history, but I'm not sure it needs its own subsection. I think that subsection can, and should, be added to the first entry under history. The big issue I see with that is that the article would then have only one section (History) with several subsections. What I propose, and was admittedly vague about when I brought it up, is removing the History section and make all of its subsections their own sections, merging the "2600 Hz" section into "2600 hertz" section. The problem, as I see it, is that it breaks up the article unnecessarily and makes people jump around the page. Rather than divide up the article chronologically, why not divide it by topic? This is mostly what's done anyway, and the sections can be put into (more or less) chronological order. [[User:Themikebest|TheMikeBest]] ([[User talk:Themikebest|talk]]) 14:42, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
:For alternate phrasing and explanations of the topic, it may be worth looking at the old 2600 hertz article from before it was redirected to this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2600_hertz&diff=454428326&oldid=452696725 [[User:Themikebest|TheMikeBest]] ([[User talk:Themikebest|talk]]) 14:44, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
::I like the 2600 Hz article. I do not see why it was merged and see no discussion to cause it to be merged. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place, but I suspect it was a unilateral change made by somebody. [[User:Trackinfo|Trackinfo]] ([[User talk:Trackinfo|talk]]) 19:01, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
:::I agree, and I think that while the technical uses of the 2600 Hz frequency are pretty much dead, it's historical and cultural significance is enough to justify having its own article. [[User:Themikebest|TheMikeBest]] ([[User talk:Themikebest|talk]]) 21:47, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
::::Unless someone can express a reason to NOT establish that article--I don't currently see other people talking here--I say we should reestablish it. [[User:Trackinfo|Trackinfo]] ([[User talk:Trackinfo|talk]]) 21:57, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
::I think we should go ahead and do it. [[User:Themikebest|TheMikeBest]] ([[User talk:Themikebest|talk]]) 00:59, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
{{done}} [[User:Trackinfo|Trackinfo]] ([[User talk:Trackinfo|talk]]) 01:44, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
:I added the main article template to the [[Phreaking#2600_hertz]] subsection. Should we move some or all of the text from [[Phreaking#2600_Hz]] as well? [[User:Themikebest|TheMikeBest]] ([[User talk:Themikebest|talk]]) 19:23, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
== This died in early two-thousands ==
The last non-SS7 trunks were upgraded in the early two-thousands. A guy who goes by "The Goatroper" A.K.A. "NoTone" knows a lot of about the last non-digital tech and networks. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.196.91.6|88.196.91.6]] ([[User talk:88.196.91.6#top|talk]]) 22:45, 25 April 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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