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Category:Submarines of the Confederate States of America

Didn't the CSA only have one submarine? Zoe (216.234.130.130 23:50, 21 December 2005 (UTC))[reply]

Category:Attack pages for speedy deletion

This is a sub-category of CAT:CSD, which is supposed to be a centralized place for admins to check pages to be deleted. Splitting the CSD category just makes admins have to look in more places to delete articles that shouldn't exist in Wikipedia. Since all the articles here end up in the parent category, delete. Tito xd^{(?!? - help us)} 22:56, 21 December 2005 (UTC).[reply]

Seconded. R adiant _>|< 00:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep: because of the way the templates are done, articles which get categorized into this category are also put into CAT:CSD. So it's harmless in terms of centralizing. But it also allows people who have a particular interest in attack pages to find them quickly. I'm basically neutral on this category, but I was considering going similar subcat for A7s, to allow them to be more easily reviewed. (A7 seems to have more borderline or improper uses than the other CSDs...) I'll hold off on making the subcat until I see the fate of this category... Jamie ^{(talk/contribs)} 00:14, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly delete. This is unnecessary, unhelpful and makes clearing CSDs a harder job than it already is. Keep everything clear and in the open and right in front of your eyes. I'd also oppose the creation of the other subcats. -Splash^talk 00:24, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I can see no way this possibly disrupts the task of admins clearing CSD, and it seems some editors find it useful. Christopher Parham (talk) 04:57, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Dedicated routers

This category is quite lost. Dedicated Router is not a major established term; consequentially, it has only two articles in it; it's a subcatgory of Electronics, not Computer-anything. QEDquid 21:01, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Celebrities who play poker

There is no encyclopedically valuable relation between being a celebrity and playing poker. It's at best a factoid. If it is relevant to their celebrity status (like having featured on Celebrity Poker Showdown), put these people in such a category, or move them to the relevant national daughter of Category:Poker players. But delete this category. Aecis ^praatpaal 17:37, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A biased Keep. I created this category to specifically move the Ben Afflecks of the world out of the main category, when I moved all the poker players into national categories. Affleck should not be listed with Doyle Brunson. This is a valuable distinction in a world where televised poker has become a craze.--Mike Selinker 18:29, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

After going back to the category for the first time in weeks, I see it has exploded. Originally the category was designed for celebrity players who were at the World Series of Poker or similar tournaments. It now seems to include anyone who has ever played a poker game, including Richard Nixon. Clearly the category has to change. I would suggest a Category:Celebrity Poker Showdown players and a Category:Celebrity Poker Club players instead of dumping this entire list into the nationality categories. The Yevgeny Kafelnikovs of the world, who have won major tournaments, deserve some recognition for this, but now this category has muddied that distinction as well. Worth a change.--Mike Selinker 00:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

DELETE it's trivial. 132.205.45.148 19:03, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Extreme delete. R adiant _>|< 00:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Simply trivia, no categorization value. Delete. Tito xd^{(?!? - help us)} 00:14, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No argument. siafu 00:25, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Pavel Vozenilek 03:57, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, trivial for an actor. --Vizcarra 04:18, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Scientific patent law

Patent law generally applies to technological, i.e. scientific, inventions (with the notable recent exception of business method patent, but in my opinion this should be considered only as an exception to the general rule that patents relate to scientific inventions in the general sense). It seems odd to use "Scientific patent law" for a category, which is slightly pleonastic. I would strongly recommend creating Category:Biology-related patent law, Category:Chemistry-related patent law and/or keeping Category:Patent law instead. Edcolins 09:46, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. These four articles would do just as well in Category:Science and law, which can be subdivided as suggested by the nominator when there are sufficient articles. siafu 00:27, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Presidents of the PAN

This was replaced by Category:Presidents of the National Action Party (Mexico). wknight94 05:28, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: As above wknight94 05:28, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No argument. siafu 00:27, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Comment it wasn't so much a replacement, rather an emptying of the original category, deletion of its mother category, cretion of the new name. Instead of the formal rename procedure. --Vizcarra 03:17, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Trentino-Alto Adige and subcats

Delete All: Trentino-Alto Adige was made a redirect to Trentino-South Tyrol and all related articles were moved to Category:Trentino-South Tyrol, etc. wknight94 01:53, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. The English name of this Italian region with a large German-speaking population was discussed on Talk:Trentino-South Tyrol ad nauseam. It is fairly clear that Trentino-South Tyrol is the least bad name for the region. Valiantis 15:01, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. No argument. siafu 00:30, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Puerto Rican Olympians to Category:Olympic competitors for Puerto Rico

The latter is the standard form. MeltBanana 00:39, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Done. -Mys e kurity^{(have you seen this?)} 05:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, I'm going to change the category to Category:Olympic competitors from Puerto Rico. Any objections? -Mys e kurity^{(have you seen this?)} 12:41, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not that I really care but all in Category:Olympic competitors by country have for. MeltBanana 14:47, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It should be "for" - not all people who compete for a country at the olympics were born in that country, which is why we use "for" (there wasa big debate about this some six months back). Grutness...wha? 23:54, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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 There is no encyclopedically valuable relation between being a celebrity and playing poker. It's at best a factoid. If it is relevant to their celebrity status (like having featured on [[Celebrity Poker Showdown]]), put these people in such a category, or move them to the relevant national daughter of [[:Category:Poker players]]. But delete this category. [[User:Aecis|Aecis]] [[User_talk:Aecis|<sup>praatpaal</sup>]] 17:37, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 :A biased '''Keep'''. I created this category to specifically move the [[Ben Affleck]]s of the world out of the main category, when I moved all the poker players into national categories. Affleck should not be listed with [[Doyle Brunson]]. This is a valuable distinction in a world where televised poker has become a craze.--[[User:Mike Selinker|Mike Selinker]] 18:29, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
-::After going back to the category for the first time in weeks, I see it has exploded. Originally the category was designed for celebrity players who were at the World Series of Poker or similar tournaments. It now seems to include anyone who's every played a poker game, including [[Richard Nixon]]. Clearly the category has to change. I would suggest a [[:Category:Celebrity Poker Showdown players]] and a [[:Category:Celebrity Poker Club players]] instead of dumping this entire list into the nationality categories. The [[Yevgeny Kafelnikov]]s of the world, who have won major tournaments, deserve some recognition for this, but now this category has muddied that distinction as well. Worth a change.--[[User:Mike Selinker|Mike Selinker]] 00:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
+::After going back to the category for the first time in weeks, I see it has exploded. Originally the category was designed for celebrity players who were at the World Series of Poker or similar tournaments. It now seems to include anyone who has ever played a poker game, including [[Richard Nixon]]. Clearly the category has to change. I would suggest a [[:Category:Celebrity Poker Showdown players]] and a [[:Category:Celebrity Poker Club players]] instead of dumping this entire list into the nationality categories. The [[Yevgeny Kafelnikov]]s of the world, who have won major tournaments, deserve some recognition for this, but now this category has muddied that distinction as well. Worth a change.--[[User:Mike Selinker|Mike Selinker]] 00:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * '''DELETE''' it's trivial. [[User:132.205.45.148|132.205.45.148]] 19:03, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 *Extreme '''delete'''. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_<font color="orange">&gt;|&lt;</font>]] 00:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC)