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:Sorry for the rambling, it's late here in my neck of the woods. [[User:Petter Bøckman|Petter Bøckman]] ([[User talk:Petter Bøckman|talk]]) 20:49, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
:Sorry for the rambling, it's late here in my neck of the woods. [[User:Petter Bøckman|Petter Bøckman]] ([[User talk:Petter Bøckman|talk]]) 20:49, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
::No worries, and interesting interpretation there (though I am a lady, not a gent ;)). I have difficulty imagining why zipping/locking barbules would be necessary for incubating feathers, though - the cost of maintaining them is high enough that it's hard to imagine that the benefit of zipping for incubation would outweigh the cost of maintenance. -[[User:Ferahgo the Assassin|Ferahgo the Assassin]] ([[User talk:Ferahgo the Assassin#top|talk]]) 20:46, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
::No worries, and interesting interpretation there (though I am a lady, not a gent ;)). I have difficulty imagining why zipping/locking barbules would be necessary for incubating feathers, though - the cost of maintaining them is high enough that it's hard to imagine that the benefit of zipping for incubation would outweigh the cost of maintenance. -[[User:Ferahgo the Assassin|Ferahgo the Assassin]] ([[User talk:Ferahgo the Assassin#top|talk]]) 20:46, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

== Amendment request ==

Here: [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Amendment#Request_to_amend_prior_case:_Race_and_intelligence]] --[[User:Captain Occam|Captain Occam]] ([[User talk:Captain Occam|talk]]) 18:49, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thank you for uploading the Royal Tyrrell Ornitholestes photo. This was just what I was looking for. FanCollector (talk) 22:26, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 20:13, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free image File:Heilmann origin of birds.jpg

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Yeah, I'm writing the article now. It's here in my userspace currently [1] and I'll put the full thing on Wikipedia once it's reasonably finished (hopefully within seven days!). Thanks for the notification though. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 20:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Links that might be useful to you

I don't intend to edit any articles you edit but, noting the book you've been writing about, have found the following external links to scanned images of the 3 original journal articles which may be useful to you (they contain the original illustrations):

  • Heilmann, Gerhard (1913), "Vor nuværendem Viden om Fluglenes Afstamning", Dansk ornithologisk forenings tidsskrift, 7: 1–71
  • Heilmann, Gerhard (1915), "Vor nuværendem Viden om Fluglenes Afstamning", Dansk ornithologisk forenings tidsskrift, 9: 1–160
  • Heilmann, Gerhard (1916), "Vor nuværendem Viden om Fluglenes Afstamning", Dansk ornithologisk forenings tidsskrift, 10: 73–144

Please feel to use these links in any of the relevant articles. Mathsci (talk) 19:34, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, thank you. I was looking for those earlier this week without success. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 03:03, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of proposed motion

This is to notify you that a request to clarify the terms of Remedy 5.1 of the Race and Intelligence arbitration case has been made and a motion which may affect you has been filed here. For the Arbitration Committee,  Roger Davies talk 03:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

By vote at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification, a majority of the Arbitration Committee has voted to amend the above case:

That the following replace the terms in Remedy 5.1:

Editors reminded and discretionary sanctions (amended)
5.2) Both experienced and new editors contributing to articles relating to the area of conflict (namely, the intersection of race/ethnicity and human abilities and behaviour, broadly construed) are reminded that this is a highly contentious subject and are cautioned that to avoid disruption they must adhere strictly to fundamental Wikipedia policies, including but not limited to: maintaining a neutral point of view; avoiding undue weight; carefully citing disputed statements to reliable sources; and avoiding edit-warring and incivility.
To enforce the foregoing, Standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for any editor making any edit relating to the area of conflict anywhere on Wikipedia.
Sanctions may not be imposed for edits made prior to the passing of this motion but warnings may be given and should be logged appropriately.
All sanctions imposed under the original remedy shall continue in full force.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Salvio Let's talk about it! 11:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss this

Velociraptor

Hi,

I'll send you my e-mail through wiki for that paper, si that okay? Dapi89 (talk) 16:22, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, that's fine. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 17:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. Did you get my e-mail. I wonder weather it worked? Dapi89 (talk) 10:02, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry, I did not get an email from you. As I said before, I'll need your actual email address to send a paper, I cannot send an attachment using the Wikipedia email form. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 10:07, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. It seems to have worked this time. Thanks again. Dapi89 (talk) 11:29, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's sent. And no problem. :) -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 23:46, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. Thanks E. Dapi89 (talk) 21:51, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Feathers

Hey, thanks for working on a new image! My thinking on the subject of arm feathers in large dromies isn't that they shouldn't be pennaceous (they certainly should), but that they'd more likely IMO lack the closed, zip-up vanes found in basal forms. Not that it would be impossible for them to have had closed-vaned feathers, but I'm just having trouble thinking of a reason for their retention. Modern ratites all have very large pennaceous feathers for both, display, aerodynamics when running, and shade/cooling. However none have retained the closed-vaned feathers of their ancestors, despite apparently having lost flight multiple times. My off the cuff educated guess is that this is due to the high maintenance cost of vaned feathers, extra preening to keep them zipped and free of parasites, etc. While dromies have extra tools in their arsenals (namely teeth, obviously they couldn't preen their remiges with their wing claws), based on living birds it doesn't seem like closed-vaned feathers are necessary for display--the degraded vanes of ostriches do just fine. I'd say give them whatever kind of feathers you like if you have a different reasoning (retention for the iridescent color-producing effects maybe?), but personally I'd choose ratite-style as I did with my image of Achillobator. Since Deinonychus is much, much smaller I think a lot more leeway can be given there (though it is still in Rhea-Emu territory weight wise). EDIT Oh, and I think kiwi-like body feathers are a safe bet, though Microraptor and Anchiornis and even Archaeopteryx do seem to have pennaceous contour feathers over some parts of the body (hips and legs in Archie, not specified in my Micro and Anchie descriptions). MMartyniuk (talk) 17:04, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to barge in on you Gents (I saw your question on Marins page). One reason for long arm feather, pennaceous or not, that is mentioned here and there and that (contrary to most other explanations) can be backed up with fossil evidence is egg incubation. We know oviraptorids folded their arms in bird fashion over their eggs (see Citipati for a couple of shots), it stands to reason they had a feather wing serving that very function. A number of small to medium size theropods had eggs arranged in a circle or half circle in the nest, leaving room for the pubis, indicating they incubated them by sitting on them as birds today. The fancy wrist flick of the maniraptorans allow them to fold their hand sideways along their lower arms. As a "predatory mechanism" as the name imply it is useless. The only reasonable reason I have ever heard for this flick is to stack the incubating wings safely out of the way when running and fighting. Old Aunty Archy have wings long enough to fly or at least glide with, but wings would necessarily have to predate flight, and the maniraptoran flick gives us a hint of when wings came about. I am fairly sure you will be right in equipping Utharaptor with proper closed or semi-closed vanes held in typical bird position. As for body feather I agree with you and Martin that Kiwi feathers (or perhaps emu?) would be a reasonable comparison.
Sorry for the rambling, it's late here in my neck of the woods. Petter Bøckman (talk) 20:49, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, and interesting interpretation there (though I am a lady, not a gent ;)). I have difficulty imagining why zipping/locking barbules would be necessary for incubating feathers, though - the cost of maintaining them is high enough that it's hard to imagine that the benefit of zipping for incubation would outweigh the cost of maintenance. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 20:46, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Amendment request

Here: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Amendment#Request_to_amend_prior_case:_Race_and_intelligence --Captain Occam (talk) 18:49, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]