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The '''Cathay de Grande''' was a Chinese restaurant<ref>{{Cite web |date=May 21, 1981 |title=Latest New Wave of Music Finds Finds Cozy Home in LA Nightclub |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/736176556/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=Oakland Tribune via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref> and [[nightclub]] in [[Hollywood, Los Angeles, California|Hollywood]] that featured mostly [[punk rock]] bands but also other styles of [[underground music|underground]]/[[alternative rock]] in the 1980s.<ref>{{Cite web |date=July 9, 1981 |title=La Dee Da on the Streets |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/579029885/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=LA Weekly via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |last=Levitan |first=Corey |date=June 16, 1995 |title=L.A.'s Landmarks of Rock |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/608327154/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=San Pedro News-Pilot via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref>
The '''Cathay de Grande''' was a Chinese restaurant<ref>{{Cite web |date=May 21, 1981 |title=Latest New Wave of Music Finds Finds Cozy Home in LA Nightclub |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/736176556/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=Oakland Tribune via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref> and later a [[Hollywood, Los Angeles|Hollywood]] [[nightclub]] of the same name that featured mostly [[punk rock]] bands but also other styles of [[underground music|underground]]/[[alternative rock]] in the 1980s.<ref>{{Cite web |date=July 9, 1981 |title=La Dee Da on the Streets |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/579029885/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=LA Weekly via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |last=Levitan |first=Corey |date=June 16, 1995 |title=L.A.'s Landmarks of Rock |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/608327154/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=San Pedro News-Pilot via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref>


== History ==
== History ==
Under the ownership of Jack Chen, the Cathay de Grande restaurant and its underground basement nightclub opened in December 1973, serving Mandarin cuisine.<ref>{{Cite web |date=December 1, 1973 |title=Advertisement |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/381792175/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=The Los Angeles Times via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |date=February 15, 1974 |title=An Oriental Adventure |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/30465665/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=Valley News via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref> By 1980, the basement venue had begun booking punk and New Wave bands such as [[the Raybeats]], [[Angry Samoans]], [[the Flesh Eaters]], and [[the Gun Club]], adding the Cathay de Grande to a group of Chinese restaurants catering to the emerging genres.<ref>{{Cite web |date=October 11, 1980 |title=Pop Beat |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/387162527/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=The Los Angeles Times via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref>
Under the ownership of Jack Chen, the Cathay de Grande restaurant and its underground basement nightclub opened in December 1973, serving Mandarin cuisine.<ref>{{Cite web |date=December 1, 1973 |title=Advertisement |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/381792175/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=The Los Angeles Times via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |date=February 15, 1974 |title=An Oriental Adventure |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/30465665/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=Valley News via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref> By 1980, new owner Michael Brennan had taken over, serving Thai food and booking punk and New Wave bands such as [[the Raybeats]], [[Angry Samoans]], [[the Flesh Eaters]], and [[the Gun Club]].<ref>{{Cite web |date=October 11, 1980 |title=Pop Beat |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/387162527/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=The Los Angeles Times via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref>


== Notable acts ==
== Notable acts ==
[[Red Hot Chili Peppers]] performed their very first show under that band name at the Cathay after going by the name Tony Flow and the Miraculously Majestic Masters of Mayhem for their two previous performances at another Hollywood club. They would play the Cathay a few times during their first tour in 1983 and once in 1984.
[[Red Hot Chili Peppers]] performed their very first show under that band name at the Cathay after going by the name Tony Flow and the Miraculously Majestic Masters of Mayhem for their two previous performances at another Hollywood club.<ref name=":0">{{Cite book |last=Weidman |first=Rich |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=yUWWEAAAQBAJ&dq=red+hot+chili+peppers+%22cathay+de+grande%22&pg=PA101 |title=Punk: The Definitive Guide to the Blank Generation and Beyond |date=2023-01-15 |publisher=Rowman & Littlefield |isbn=978-1-4930-6241-6 |language=en}}</ref> They would play the Cathay a few times during their first tour in 1983 and once in 1984.


Other bands who frequently played the Cathay included The [[Minutemen (band)|Minutemen]], [[Bad Religion]], [[Tex and the Horseheads]], [[Geza X]] and the Mommymen, Dr. Know, The WILD, Entropy,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.fakeart.net/more/Entropy/index.html|title=Los Angeles Entropy ARCHIVE|author=David M. Hinnebusch|publisher=|accessdate=21 March 2015}}</ref> along with regulars from Orange County [[Social Distortion]], [[T.S.O.L.]], The Vandals, Agent Orange and Love Canal. [[The Knitters]] played their first gig at the Cathay.
Other bands who frequently played the Cathay included The [[Minutemen (band)|Minutemen]], [[Bad Religion]], [[Tex and the Horseheads]], [[Geza X]] and the Mommymen, Dr. Know, The WILD, Entropy,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.fakeart.net/more/Entropy/index.html|title=Los Angeles Entropy ARCHIVE|author=David M. Hinnebusch|publisher=|accessdate=21 March 2015}}</ref> along with regulars from Orange County [[Social Distortion]], [[T.S.O.L.]], The Vandals, Agent Orange. and Love Canal. [[The Knitters]] played their first gig at the Cathay.<ref name=":0" />

Starting around August 1981, [[Top Jimmy & The Rhythm Pigs]] had a residency playing "Blue Mondays" every Monday night.

[[The Replacements (band)|The Replacements]] and [[Butthole Surfers]] were among the national touring bands who came through the venue.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Locey |first=Bill |date=1991-10-10 |title=MUSIC THELONIOUS MONSTER : Frantic Front Man : The band plays its brand of blues, funk, punk and always loud rock 'n' roll Saturday night at the Anaconda Theatre in Isla Vista. |url=https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-10-10-vl-314-story.html |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=Los Angeles Times |language=en-US}}</ref>


== Closure and legacy ==
== Closure and legacy ==
Due to problems with neighbors, violence caused in part by punk gangs such as [[the LADS]] gang, [[Suicidal Tendencies]], FFF and HRP, and legal problems related to business conflicts, the Cathay de Grande closed in 1985 with Violent Psychosis, [[The Mentors]] with [[El Duce]], and [[Circle Jerks]] performing the farewell show. Shortly before, Danny "Dobbs" Wilson, a booker at the Cathay de Grande, started [[Raji's]] a block to the north on [[Hollywood Boulevard]].<ref>{{Cite web |date=September 19, 1991 |title=Dobbs' Landing |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/578630613/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=LA Weekly via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |last=Everett |first=Todd |date=August 26, 1990 |title=Raji's Is Downscale, But Not Out, Among Hollywood Boulevard Nightclubs |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/176058203/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=The Los Angeles Times via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref>
Due to ongoing problems with neighbors,<ref name=":1">{{Cite web |last=Spurrier |first=Jeff |date=October 30, 1984 |title=Punk Palace to Close, a Victim of Complaints |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/401753722/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=The Los Angeles Times via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref> intervention by the local police, and legal problems related to business conflicts,<ref>{{Cite web |date=November 1, 1984 |title=L.A. Dee Da |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/579108843/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=LA Weekly via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref><ref name=":2">{{Cite web |last=Braun |first=Stephen |date=October 7, 1984 |title=Happy Note for Neighbors |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/401182671/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=The Los Angeles Times via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref> proprietor Michael Brennan closed the Cathay de Grande in 1985. It was one of the last remaining punk venues at the time of its closure.<ref name=":2" /> Violent Psychosis, [[The Mentors]] with [[El Duce]], and [[Circle Jerks]] performed the venue's farewell show.<ref name=":0" /> Shortly before, Danny "Dobbs" Wilson, a booker at the Cathay de Grande, started [[Raji's]] a block to the north on [[Hollywood Boulevard]].<ref>{{Cite web |date=September 19, 1991 |title=Dobbs' Landing |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/578630613/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=LA Weekly via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |last=Everett |first=Todd |date=August 26, 1990 |title=Raji's Is Downscale, But Not Out, Among Hollywood Boulevard Nightclubs |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/176058203/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=The Los Angeles Times via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref>


The nightclub space later became home to the more upscale China Club.<ref>{{Cite web |date=December 26, 1991 |title=Calendar |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/579115158/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=LA Weekly via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref>
The nightclub space later became home to the more upscale China Club.<ref>{{Cite web |date=December 26, 1991 |title=Calendar |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/579115158/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=LA Weekly via Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=LA Weekly 07 Dec 1989, page 150 |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/578584766/ |access-date=2023-01-17 |website=Newspapers.com |language=en}}</ref>


In the song "The Desperation´s Gone" from the [[NOFX]] album ''So Long And Thanks For All The Shoes'', [[Fat Mike]] sings "Cathay de I miss your smell".
In the song "The Desperation's Gone" from the [[NOFX]] album ''So Long And Thanks For All The Shoes'', [[Fat Mike]] sings "Cathay de, I miss your smell."


In 2014 a nightclub featuring craft cocktails called The Argyle opened at the location.
In 2014, a nightclub called The Argyle opened at the location. That venue has since closed.


== Notes==
== Notes==

Latest revision as of 01:41, 18 April 2023

Cathay de Grande
Address1600 Argyle Ave.
Los Angeles
USA
Opened1973
Closed1985

The Cathay de Grande was a Chinese restaurant[1] and later a Hollywood nightclub of the same name that featured mostly punk rock bands but also other styles of underground/alternative rock in the 1980s.[2][3]

History[edit]

Under the ownership of Jack Chen, the Cathay de Grande restaurant and its underground basement nightclub opened in December 1973, serving Mandarin cuisine.[4][5] By 1980, new owner Michael Brennan had taken over, serving Thai food and booking punk and New Wave bands such as the Raybeats, Angry Samoans, the Flesh Eaters, and the Gun Club.[6]

Notable acts[edit]

Red Hot Chili Peppers performed their very first show under that band name at the Cathay after going by the name Tony Flow and the Miraculously Majestic Masters of Mayhem for their two previous performances at another Hollywood club.[7] They would play the Cathay a few times during their first tour in 1983 and once in 1984.

Other bands who frequently played the Cathay included The Minutemen, Bad Religion, Tex and the Horseheads, Geza X and the Mommymen, Dr. Know, The WILD, Entropy,[8] along with regulars from Orange County Social Distortion, T.S.O.L., The Vandals, Agent Orange. and Love Canal. The Knitters played their first gig at the Cathay.[7]

Starting around August 1981, Top Jimmy & The Rhythm Pigs had a residency playing "Blue Mondays" every Monday night.

The Replacements and Butthole Surfers were among the national touring bands who came through the venue.[9]

Closure and legacy[edit]

Due to ongoing problems with neighbors,[10] intervention by the local police, and legal problems related to business conflicts,[11][12] proprietor Michael Brennan closed the Cathay de Grande in 1985. It was one of the last remaining punk venues at the time of its closure.[12] Violent Psychosis, The Mentors with El Duce, and Circle Jerks performed the venue's farewell show.[7] Shortly before, Danny "Dobbs" Wilson, a booker at the Cathay de Grande, started Raji's a block to the north on Hollywood Boulevard.[13][14]

The nightclub space later became home to the more upscale China Club.[15][16]

In the song "The Desperation's Gone" from the NOFX album So Long And Thanks For All The Shoes, Fat Mike sings "Cathay de, I miss your smell."

In 2014, a nightclub called The Argyle opened at the location. That venue has since closed.

Notes[edit]

  1. ^ "Latest New Wave of Music Finds Finds Cozy Home in LA Nightclub". Oakland Tribune via Newspapers.com. May 21, 1981. Retrieved 2023-01-17.
  2. ^ "La Dee Da on the Streets". LA Weekly via Newspapers.com. July 9, 1981. Retrieved 2023-01-17.
  3. ^ Levitan, Corey (June 16, 1995). "L.A.'s Landmarks of Rock". San Pedro News-Pilot via Newspapers.com. Retrieved 2023-01-17.
  4. ^ "Advertisement". The Los Angeles Times via Newspapers.com. December 1, 1973. Retrieved 2023-01-17.
  5. ^ "An Oriental Adventure". Valley News via Newspapers.com. February 15, 1974. Retrieved 2023-01-17.
  6. ^ "Pop Beat". The Los Angeles Times via Newspapers.com. October 11, 1980. Retrieved 2023-01-17.
  7. ^ a b c Weidman, Rich (2023-01-15). Punk: The Definitive Guide to the Blank Generation and Beyond. Rowman & Littlefield. ISBN 978-1-4930-6241-6.
  8. ^ David M. Hinnebusch. "Los Angeles Entropy ARCHIVE". Retrieved 21 March 2015.
  9. ^ Locey, Bill (1991-10-10). "MUSIC THELONIOUS MONSTER : Frantic Front Man : The band plays its brand of blues, funk, punk and always loud rock 'n' roll Saturday night at the Anaconda Theatre in Isla Vista". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 2023-01-17.
  10. ^ Spurrier, Jeff (October 30, 1984). "Punk Palace to Close, a Victim of Complaints". The Los Angeles Times via Newspapers.com. Retrieved 2023-01-17.
  11. ^ "L.A. Dee Da". LA Weekly via Newspapers.com. November 1, 1984. Retrieved 2023-01-17.
  12. ^ a b Braun, Stephen (October 7, 1984). "Happy Note for Neighbors". The Los Angeles Times via Newspapers.com. Retrieved 2023-01-17.
  13. ^ "Dobbs' Landing". LA Weekly via Newspapers.com. September 19, 1991. Retrieved 2023-01-17.
  14. ^ Everett, Todd (August 26, 1990). "Raji's Is Downscale, But Not Out, Among Hollywood Boulevard Nightclubs". The Los Angeles Times via Newspapers.com. Retrieved 2023-01-17.
  15. ^ "Calendar". LA Weekly via Newspapers.com. December 26, 1991. Retrieved 2023-01-17.
  16. ^ "LA Weekly 07 Dec 1989, page 150". Newspapers.com. Retrieved 2023-01-17.

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