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zensunni
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A fair review, however...
Even when the show was first airing, I had this same ... I'll call it a discussion rather than argument .. with people on message boards about the show. What most people fail to notice about Gosick is that the individual mysteries, while they SEEM episodic in nature, are not really so. As the story continues, you realize that they all build upon one another, building an overarching mystery that spans the entire length of the story. In the review, Rebecca hinted at aspects of that overarching mystery, since much of it has to do with Victorique's mother and the reason for her birth. I can't really speak to the costuming inaccuracies, but as for historical issues, one needs to remember that this is CERTAINLY and ALTERNATE time line and NOT based on anything resembling the actual timeline of our world in terms of WWI and WWII. I received my copy in the mail on release day but have yet to take the time to watch it. I should really watch the dub to see how I like it. It is a shame that they have that pronunciation problem, but if that is the extent to which the dub has issues, it is probably an excellent effort. (As long as everyone pronounces it the same way, does it really matter if they pronounce it "correctly" after all? It is a NAME. Who are we to say how it should be pronounced. Remember Young Frankenstein with Igor and Frankenstein insisting on the alternate pronunciations of their names?) |
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TarsTarkas
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Since I have no knowledge of period costumes, I think this critique will matter little to those who are not costume-philes.
I loved Gosick, and when Funimation released it, it was a great day. Only watched four episodes of the dub, but I think it is pretty good. I have no complaints over it. I agree with the reviewer, that it is the characters that make the show. Not to mention, this show has a clear ending, a spoiler[happy ending], despite what some naysayers will postulate. |
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Animegomaniac
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I have even less knowledge about the show but I do know French. Japan, come over here. Lesson time! The name would be "Du Bois". Du Bois. Blois isn't a name, it's not even a word and sadly, it would be pronounced "du blwah" with a lot of tongue dangling and spit in any kind of romance language. Neither the Anglo Saxon English or French tongue would or should ever try to attempt it. It may not be Cthulu but it really shouldn't be what it is either.
Victorique. Ok, it's set in post Victorian times, the same itself from Queen Victoria. However, the queen's English, end of story. End of name? Rick? Really? In other words, I don't believe the problem is with the dub's pronunciation. Kazuya Kujo, nothing wrong with but they would have better luck pulling the European girl's name out of a hat. Kerwood Durby, Nana Fedora or... let's face it, it's Japan... Blue Bonnet Beret. |
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Morry
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I have issues with Gosick's last few episodes but, rewatching the dub, I was surprised to find how much I really enjoyed the series. This is a great buy for anyone who likes mystery dramas.
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Agent355
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I clicked on the review and started reading without noting who wrote it, but as soon as I read the line "waist lines were low and hemlines were high," I knew it must be Rebecca Silverman, and sure enough, I was right! Rebecca, I love the way you always add historical and literary context to your reviews and always enjoy reading them. I have a question about costumes, though. Based on my research (mostly of watching some Downton Abbey episodes set in the 20s), "modern" 20's fashion was not completely acceptable to everyone at the time, especially older, richer types, so wouldn't it make sense for a strict father to limit his daughter's wardrobe to older styles?
All I knew about this show was that it had a historical setting, took place in a school, and involved episodic mystery solving. Figuring it was another gender-bent "Sherlock Holmes in school" clone and not being much of a fan of anthology mystery series, I wasn't all that interested in watching it. Learning it has a supernatural aspect and better-than-average character relationship development makes me want to check it out. Thanks! |
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harminia
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in US sure, but in Australia and NZ it had been out for ages from Madman. (That said, the title is no longer sold on the Madman store now, but that's pretty recent, I believe) Anyway, (as you can maybe tell from my username), I love Gosick. It's not a great mystery, but it's a great series, so if you're coming for the mysteries you'll be disappointed, but hopefully be pleased by what ends up being a very rewarding and emotional story. I wish Tokyopop had done more of the novels. They did like heaps of them at the German branch One thing that gives Gosick extra points in my book, is the character albums that were released. In the show Victorique is a terrible singer, so she has two versions of her character songs: One is the extended, proper Aoi Yuuki singing one and one is a short version with Victorique's horrible singing. It's truly wonderful (though not pleasing for the ears of course). |
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Princess_Irene
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Thank you! I guess I am kind of predictable that way, and I'm really happy to hear that you enjoy it.
Older, yes, but within reason - the outfits that most of the women are wearing would have been in fashion around 1904 or 1914, so it would have been like a parent making their child dress like Shirley Temple today, particularly given the way styles were going in 1924. Certainly not every woman was wearing a knee-length skirt or a sleeveless top, but a conservative woman would have dressed more like the teacher in the series. Have you see the Australian TV series "Miss Fisher's Mysteries?" That's set later, but the way her companion Dot dresses is a good example of mid-to-late 20s conservative dress. More immediately, this site has some good pictures of actual (conservative) clothing patterns sold in both 1924 and 1925 - you can really see the rapid changes. Many of the women in the show are dressed more like this, which is twenty years earlier. Victorique's dresses are actually more 18th century-inspired. Since I'm babbling, one of my favorite things about the 20s was the way the old Gibson Girl, or S-shaping, corset and hobble skirt went away. I wore one of those corsets once, and it was quite the experience. Anyway, yes, worth watching! And please someone, license rescue the novels...! |
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ScruffyKiwi
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With a bit of luck thats because Madman are going to rerelease it with the dub. I have the origional release but I would gladly double dip, especially if they do a BluRay release. |
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pibburns
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Actually Blois is a perfectly good French name. Blois is a town in the Loire valley in France, home of the rather famous Château Royal de Blois. Well worth visiting if you ever get the chance. While I can't say that either Blois or de Blois are commonly used surnames, there are folks who do carry one or the other. For example, folks with an interest in architecture will recognize the name of Natalie de Blois, who passed away just a few years ago. |
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Merxamers
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I'd say the odds have never been better for a license rescue like this. There are an unbelievable number of light novels being published in english right now, so if there's a demand i bet somebody will pick it up. I'm unfamiliar with this series, but from i'm hearing i might pick it up. |
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Princess_Irene
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Yes, I'm tentatively hopeful, especially since it's a relatively short series. (Although I'd want the sequel series as well, as long as I'm being greedy.)
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harminia
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depends on if tokyopop still have the license hostage... |
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