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Fronzel
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That was certainly a problem with the original TV series whatever it may have over the new series; Usagi only seemed to be important because she was the princess in her past life (and indeed at this stage of the series had trouble doing anything useful). The Sailor Moon R movie is an exception as it used the outcast backstories and the whole climax is about Usagi's internal strength. |
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Parsifal24
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I watched this as it streamed and honestly to me it's the worst kind of adaptation in that it made me question why I even liked the original series so much. That being said certain parts were nice to see animated.
But with the CGI and the writing being really weak in some places it's hard to say I enjoyed this series. I, however, did not the extremes of some I know of who threatened to destroy the entire series because of Crystal "ruining" it for them. Nice to hear the dub is good I'm not a Dub person but it's nice to hear it's not terrible |
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rizuchan
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This is kind of backwards... Codename: Sailor V's Minako is silly and clumsy, basically alpha version Usagi. In the Sailor Moon manga she is more mature and has that more wise, experienced vibe. Crystal reproduces this pretty faithfully - it's the original anime that changed her personality to be more like her Sailor V counterpart. I actually watched Seasons 1 & 2 of Sailor Moon Crystal concurrently with the original. I may have even enjoyed Crystal more somewhat, although the character development was sorely missed. But the original manga was just as bad. In fact, the fact that Crystal was so faithfully adapted from the source material is probably its biggest issue. So many of the complaints I've seen about Crystal were really more about the source material and how they missed the personalities that the original anime developed. It's so bizarre seeing the nostalgia crowd going off about how the original anime is so much better when I distinctly remember a decade ago when many of the same people were saying "You have to read the manga, it's completely different and sooo much better!" |
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Fronzel
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They could have tried to create a synthesis instead of focusing so hard on following the source material. Repeating a mistake is another mistake. |
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jr240483
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of course the dub wont be terrible. this isnt the DIC / Cloverway cast or their 4kids style Viz Media was doing. if they did , it would have been a massive crapstorm. and considering that they had the same VA that did both Hinata & Orihime voicing that ditzy bunhead , its more or less a shoe win that usagi's vocal point would be strong(though personally i thought Laura Bailey would have been Usagi instead of Seph). the same with the other guardians and tuxedo mask. the only thing is that luna sounds way way too young in my view. dont get me wrong, Michelle Ruff sounds perfect as luna , though there are times where she sounds too young for Luna's age which isnt clearly known since there haven't been a hint on the actual age for both Luna and Artemis on both anime series,nor on the Tokyopop or Kodansha's version of their mangas.personally i think Wendel Lee would have made a better Luna. wouldnt sound too old, but not too young as well.
You cant be surprised by that. not every rebooted adaptation can be as good as Hellsing Ultimate or FMA Brotherhood. and the fact that crystal is using the source materials of the 90's manga dont make newer fans jump for joy.especially this is is WHAT Naoko wanted for the new series.and die hard moonie fans have no problem with crystal basing from the 90's adaptation. Personally they should have had crystal based off of the newer Kodansha Comic version which would have pleased everyone. at least the typical anime fans that is. |
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SailorNaruto
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Unfortunately I can't buy this set just yet, but I've already seen the episodes. And I'm definitely in the minority on this, but I enjoyed the CGI. It's not the best looking, mind you, but I thought it gave a breath of fresh air to Sailor Moon. It was different from the 90s anime, which I adore to this day, and I liked that about Crystal. I wish it didn't get such negative reception.
And while I'm on the subject, I also prefer the art style in the first two seasons over the one used in the third. I know it's not to best, nor was it to everyone's liking, but I can't help liking it better. In my opinion, if I was to compare that style and the one in season 3 to the manga, I'd have to say the former looks more like the manga. I some mind how season 3 is animated, it just comes of as being too moe. It also reminds me too much of the 90s anime, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's just a minor gripe of mine. Anyway, I'm not blind to Crystal's faults as well. The thing that severely pissed me off in Crystal was in season 1 spoiler[when the Senshi went up against Beryl, Venus was supposed to run her through with the Holy Sword, but instead Sailor Moon ended up taking the sword, and stabbing.... Wait for it....... HER NECKLACE. She died when it was destroyed, and I thought that was incredibly stupid]. And I'm still bitter over that. But regardless, I'll continue liking Crystal and watching it. |
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CCTakato
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pachy_boy
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And here I thought I was the only one who appreciated the CGI moments, even if it is for different reasons. Fans seem to hold the transformation scenes from the classic series in higher regard--but they don't seem to admit just how voyeuristic they were. They were blatant male-gaze camera shots that zoomed in on the most convenient moments in the (14-year-old) girls' tranformations. True, the camera does a lot of zoom-ins in the Crystal transformation scenes, but compared to the classic series I got more the sense that the focus was on the feminity and beauty of the girls and their metamorphosis, and it actually felt less inappropriate. Maybe the CGI didn't bother me as much because I appreciated it for the reasons already stated, and it's kind of a shame that not more fans felt the same. So I was concerned at first about the switch back to 2D in season 3 because I didn't know if they were going to reflect the Crystal transformations or revert back to the classic series--fortunately it turned out to be the former. People can be happy about the 2D animation alone, but I'm personally relieved they continued skipping the voyeurism. |
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H. Guderian
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The still imagery could sometimes pass, but when it came to movement and animation the show was a disaster. The Inner Senshi typically showed up to shout "Sailor Moon" and get knocked around. While the show would improve in later seasons, this first disc set covers the show as the trainwreck parades through town like the Robot Carnival logo, crushing villages.
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CCTakato
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I personally thought the CGI animation of the Silver Crystal was gorgeous and I didn't think the CGI for the transformations was that bad. Jupiter and Venus especially had the best transformations and Mercury's has grown on me a lot. Mars' transformation is the only one that bothers me a bit, particularly the scene where they zoom in on her face.
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whiskeyii
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As far as the CG transformations go, I'll give Crystal one thing: it made Venus' transformation actually look interesting. The rest just felt like shoddy homages to the 90's versions.
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SailorNaruto
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I personally feel that in the beginning, a great deal of the hate towards SMC had to do with nostalgia for the classic anime. Now granted, the first two seasons had derpy moments that warranted criticism, but the majority of the hate was biased. And I say this based of the comments I were seeing on Twitter, YouTube, Tumblr, ect (Tumblr especially). And maybe I'm wrong, but I've never been able to shake that feeling. And I agree about the partial nudity of the transformations in the 90s anime. I would get so into the show that I'd forget that they were in fact just 14 years old. Which brings me back to some irony I saw in Crystal: when the transformations were still CGI, you could hardly see the beast lines, whereas the 2D transformations in the third season, they were very noticeable. I don't know if I'm the only one who noticed that, but I thought I mentioned. |
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CCTakato
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I agree a lot of the hate was an over-reaction especially with all the unneeded insults and flame wars that went on between fans for a long time. Having been re-reading the manga recently though, I think the biggest issue with the first season of Crystal is that it doesn't really know what kind of an adaptation it wants to be. You get the feeling it wants to branch out and do more original content but then it also wants to be a faithful panel by panel adaptation of the manga and you can't really do both with only 14 episodes. I just wonder how much of this was caused by Naoko Takeuchi's obsession with keeping as pure to the manga as possible and her previous hatred for the 90s anime's deviations. But there are also little things they left out in the manga that could have at least helped add some spice to the story. Like there's a scene in the manga where Kunzite steals all the electricity from the city and the manga shows Sailor Jupiter feeling the pain from the electricity being drained because of how in tune she is with her element. Just including more scenes like that could have given more life to the Inners and make them feel less hive minded. And while I'm not as outraged about it as much as some fans were, I can definitely see how changing it so that Sailor Moon used the sword instead of Venus was a poor decision on their part. Part of what I loved about the manga was like in fantasy fiction and anime especially, it's always the main character that gets the super special awesome power up that makes them more invincible than everyone else halfway through the story. I loved the manga it was Venus that got the power up instead of Sailor Moon and I thought was actually a unique decision on Naoko's part. Changing it so Usagi got the sword kind of makes it feel more like a cliched power up and makes it feel less unique and exciting.
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sebatrelles
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...what? Kotono Mitsuishi is the reason I watched Crystal. And Evangelion. I understand this is subjective and personal opinion, but I think she delivers really good lines. I actually felt more annoyed by her behaviour and how the story flows in the first season than her lines. I did like the english voice actress, too, but I like watching anime in japanese. |
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tootbrush
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Eh? The transformations in Crystal S3 (with the exception of Moon's) are basically identical to the ones in the classic series. In fact, they're even more thorough at emphasising certain features of their bodies. |
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