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Bob Barr

Posted: September 23, 2010 04:25 PM

Extending Ethanol Tax Credit Makes Sense

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The ethanol tax credit, known commonly by its congressionally-bestowed acronym, "VEETC" (the "Volumetric Ethanol Excise Tax Credit" for those who delight in impressing cocktail-party acquaintances with their knowledge of trivia), is the tax credit many conservatives and liberals alike love to hate. Both sides, however, would be well-advised to push aside ideologically-based peeves for the time being, and support extension of the credit beyond its scheduled December 31st expiration.

Outside those states boasting heavy corn production, which is the most common product source for the biofuel ethanol, few Americans -- including the millions of motorists who daily benefit from inclusion of ethanol in the gasoline that fuels their vehicles -- VEETC is essentially unknown. This understandable lack of public awareness accounts for much of the trouble proponents of the tax credit are encountering in their efforts to convince Congress to include an extension in some piece of legislation that will make its way to President Obama's desk in the final weeks of this 111 Congress.

Another reason the ethanol tax credit has had a rough ride this year, lies in its complexity; which extends far deeper than just the awkwardness of its moniker. As is clear from a reading of the July 2010 Congressional Budget Office (CBO) study, "Using Biofuel Tax Credits to Achieve Energy and Environmental Policy Goals," calculating the "costs" of tax credits such as VEETC, and weighing them against the energy and environmental "benefits," is a daunting and not necessarily objective exercise, even for energy experts.

While it is relatively easy to pick apart the information in the CBO study, as some conservative groups already have done, such an exercise is somewhat unfair. There is, of course, a philosophical argument to be made that any tax credit will to some degree skew market forces. However, to single out the tax credit available to blenders of gasoline (and indirectly to producers of ethanol and other biofuels), while ignoring other, far larger tax incentives, is disingenuous. As Bob Dinneen, head of the Renewable Fuels Association (RFA) noted in a guest article in the July 29th Washington Post, "calling for an end to tax credits for ethanol while ignoring the billions of dollars in subsidies for Big Oil is as inequitable as it is shortsighted."

It is relevant also that the tax subsidies the fossil fuels industry enjoys are written permanently into the federal tax code, and therefore do not have to be defended and justified periodically like VEETC.

As Dinneen also pointed out in his opinion piece, production of ethanol made possible at least in part by VEETC, has in fact generated billions more in additional tax revenues than dollars extended through the tax credit program (a net surplus of tax dollars totaling $3.0 billion last year alone). Fiscal hawks should be cheering passage of legislation extending VEETC, not pouting over its possible resuscitation.

These arguments don't even touch the very practical benefits accruing to the economy generally by employment opportunities in the biofuels sector (with 112,000 jobs directly linked to the fate of the tax credit, according to the RFA).

Were incumbent members of the Congress facing a political climate less volatile -- and an economy less sluggish -- than that in which they currently find themselves, the debate over extending VEETC likely would have been resolved favorably many months ago. Even Washington's most well-known tax watchdog group, American for Tax Reform, cautions members of Congress against voting to repeal VEETC (to do so would amount to a "corporate tax increase" in the organization's view).

There is always plenty of time to argue the philosophical pros and cons of the myriad elements of federal tax policy; and that's a healthy and necessary debate. But it needs to be a fair, objective and comprehensive debate; not one singling out for criticism or elimination one tax credit program like VEETC, that demonstrably is both a benefit to private industry as well as a net contributor of jobs and tax revenues.

 
 
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LibertyRoy   17 hours ago (8:47 PM)
Barr is a disgrace to Libertarians. Subsidies like this are nothing but special interest graft that no true Libertarian believes in. "Won't get fooled again."
deweaver   18 hours ago (8:18 PM)
Just another special interest trying to get into our pocket. All scientific based studies put corn based ethanol as a real environmental looser, but we ban importing sugar based ethanol that does reduce green house gases -- at least a little. It is also an economic looser and can't survive without subsidies and taxpayer support.

However, science and facts don't count when you have beliefs, politics and ignorance. The only real question is whether he believes his own non-sense or is a pure propagandaist who believes truth is irrelevant.
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General Public   20 hours ago (6:21 PM)
Ethanol production requires the use of more fossil fuel energy than the amount of energy you get out of the ethanol. Using ethanol as a fuel is completely idiotic and a huge waste of energy. Ethanol is produced from corn, mainly, and the fossil fuels that are used to make fertilizer, to run the mechanized large industrial farms, to harvest the crops, and to convert the harvested crop into ethanol have more usable energy content than the ethanol. If our public policy were dictated by logic and reason rather than subsidies to special interest groups that dominate Washington, we would not be having this discussion because ethanol would never have been used as a fuel, heavily subsidized, given tax breaks, given earmarks, and mandated to be at least a certain percentage of all gasoline sold at gas stations. I am somewhat surprised to see a "libertarian" like Bob Barr arguing in favor of the government helping out special interest groups like the ethanol industry, since I was under the impression that libertarians were against a large government that helps out special interest groups, and were basically closet anarchists who wanted as little government as possible. I guess Bob Barr is still a Republican at heart, wanting to help out the well-connected special interests. Why don't we use REAL renewable energy sources like wind, solar, hydroelectric, geothermal, and tidal? That would actually be good public policy. Enough of this ethanol nonsense! Ethanol is for drinking, not for use as fuel.
thebigbike   14 minutes ago (1:45 PM)
Let's give a little more emphasis to the problematic source of ethanol as corn grain. If ethanol is made from cellulosic digestion, instead of basically distilling whiskey and using that to run you car, the equation changes in favor of ethanol production from biomass such as cornSTALKS grasses and legumes otherwise largley unused
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muck-raker   21 hours ago (5:05 PM)
this is long but documented...everything you ever wanted to know about just HOW BAD ethanol is:

http://www.financials­ensearchiv­e.com/editorials/cooke/2007/0202.html
jdmn17   21 hours ago (5:05 PM)
Ethanol is a joke for many reasons cited below. Not stated, except in passing - hemp would use less water and fertilizer and with algae provides a much more "natural" basis for fuel. Ethanol not only is costing us in subsidies it is also costing us because farmers plant corn instead of other crops, crops that we now have to import. It's a waste, the only people getting a deal from ethanol are the growers and the people int the ethanol production part of it. The rest of us lose in every way
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muck-raker   21 hours ago (5:01 PM)
this thread is highly unusual as there are so many good posts...the people posting for the most part obviously get it, the author, on the other hand, must be on the payroll of the Corn Lobby.
what is now on the table is 15% ethanol which will reduce your mileage an power by approx. 7%. Farmers with 200 acres or more that are subsidized are all millionaires now..it cost approx. .51 a gal to lace our fuel at the refinery just so we can make a few people rich and pollute the air much worse and raise our fuel cost per mile.
Joe Dallas   22 hours ago (4:21 PM)
"It is relevant also that the tax subsidies the fossil fuels industry enjoys are written permanently into the federal tax code, and therefore do not have to be defended and justified periodically like VEETC. "

Can you name any of the tax subsidies and or so called loopholes actually written into the US tax code - US Title 26.
laymancanuck   22 hours ago (4:10 PM)
What a ridiculous idea to use food crops to produce fuel and then to subsidize the industry. Another win for the powerful farm lobby. We are all paying for this stupidity with increased up ward pressure on food prices. There should be increased government support for research into using algae and cellulose for ethanol production.
LazarusTJFA   22 hours ago (4:05 PM)
The author skips an essential truth regarding ethanol. It DOES NOT WORK. Our gasoline is now 10% ethanol. I have not spoken with a single person who checks their mileage who has not discovered that their car gets a minimum of at least 10% poorer miles per gallon using ethanol as compared to when they were able to use gasoline. Ethanol did not work in cars 30 years ago when it was first tried & it works no better now.

It is a scam.
turkeywrld   23 hours ago (2:42 PM)
Rather than focus on the 'something for nothing' idiocy of 'cheap' fuel ..we'd be far better off concentrating on using energy in a 'conservative' manner .. such as fuel efficient engines of appropriate size required to do the job ..the average car in europe will do 45 miles on a gallon of fuel (and double the fuel price at the pump) ..here its double the energy for same distance..same with delivery vehicles ..most 'mid size'delivery vans in europe have engines around 2.0 -2.8 litres..here they use 6.0-.6.7 litres to do same job .. we are pissing away everything..we are 'price' oriented..and know the value of nothing ..
turkeywrld   24 hours ago (2:14 PM)
What is,as usua,l overlooked is the HONESTY and therefore morality of this subsidised madness ...ethanol from corn is a total loss system..completely nuts.. it as insane as our military policies .(in which the taxpayer subsidise the oiligarchal oil industry in both tax money and blood) .and is ultimately destructive because it is NOT a sustainable practice .. this whole issue of 'cheap' energy is a fraud ..a fraud which is destroying many forms of life we depend upon for survival ..but unfortunately this is an issue in which we are totally blinded by ignorance .. and therefore fail to see the many implications.. we really need to grasp and understanding of the bigger picture of HOW natural systems of which humanity is a part interact and are co-dependant ..and work within the values of that model .. or ..face extinction..
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Biodiversivist   24 hours ago (2:11 PM)
"...who daily benefit from ethanol?"

It costs $1.78 per gallon above what you pay at the pump according to the CBO.

Consumer Reports found E85 blends lower gas mileage 27 percent.

It increases food costs. Corn just crashed through $5 a bushel again. It sold for $2 a bushel for a decade before the ethanol mandates were codified.

It also increases air pollution and according to the EPA, it also increases green house gases.

"However, to single out the tax credit available to blenders of gasoline?"

"Blenders of gasoline" are "oil companies." Oil companies are the recipients of this credit and use it to lower the price of gasoline at the pump so consumers will consume more "gasoline," and they have, so much in fact, they have nullified the amount of ethanol produced. We are importing just as much oil as we were before ethanol.

"...has in fact generated billions more in additional tax revenues?"

The oil it displaced generated even more in tax revenues, so ethanol did not generate any extra money at all. It behooves the government to keep using a product that can be taxed instead cars that use less of what can be taxed.

"...with 112,000 jobs directly linked to the fate of the tax credit?"

According to the NRDC, those job numbers are a farce. Google the term " Big ethanol is using bad jobs numbers to push bad tax credit "
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verhaftik1   23 hours ago (2:54 PM)
Ethanol also erodes pipelines and voids future use of multifunctional pipelines after they are used just one time by ethanol.

Also, "ethanol also results in nearly twice the greenhouse gas emissions as the oil it would replace because of land use changes, according to Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs. The Princeton study showed that after taking account land use changes, corn-based ethanol increases greenhouse gasses by 93 percent compared to using gasoline over a 30-year period." **

What moron is for ethanol? For all the reasons you cite, I can't believe people still back this garbage.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0726/p12s01-usgn.html
http://www.autotrader.com/research/content/article-printable-popup.jsp?content_id=26040
** http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/members/pressreleasels85.asp?district=64B&pressid;=3538&party;=1
LazarusTJFA   21 hours ago (4:39 PM)
How about oil companies who sell more gasoline & also get to charge the same price for a 90% mix of gasoline as they would charge for a 100% mix which would also be more efficient than ethanol.
guajiro   12:19 PM on 9/26/2010
Well Bob Barr, other than the fact that you are a fake Libertarian for supporting subsidies, your idea could use some tweaking. Currently there are millions and millions of productive acres that are in CRP and other programs wherein farmers are paid to leave their fields idle. Cellulosic ethanol production could use all the switchgrass, hay, trash, wood, cotton, hemp, corn, weeds, farm waste, lumber waste, lumber, etc., and convert it to ethanol. This method is much more efficient than current ethanol production and could allow anyone, not just giant Agri-business interests, to take their grass cuttings, tree limbs, and practically anything not made out of metal and get paid for taking it to their local cellulosic ethanol production center. Additionally, Bob, non-productive land could be put to use by growing plants/weeds/cacti/algae for profit. I know of clothing businesses that buy tons of clothing in bulk from India, Pakistan, etc., take out the best clothes and then pay others to burn the leftover clothing. Tractor trailer rigs come to pick up the leftover clothes to be burned elsewhere. Cellulosic ethanol production would use all this lefotver clothing and return a profit to whomever dropped it off. Cellulosic ethanol is the answer Bob, not the current method your giant Agri-business supporters want.
whitemale08   11:39 AM on 9/26/2010
War is a way to put people back-to-work too.

Is it a good idea for that purpose? NO.

So why in the world would we subsidize the destruction of what could be our food supply?

With so many starving people around the world we could best use our subsidies for development in fusion nuclear technology.

Fusion technology allows for toxic waste, from fusion nuclear power, be dispose of properly.

No more does humanity have to choose between feeding people or driving our cars because of the excuses anti-nuclear advocates say: "...what about toxic waste?"

Some ideas are so stupid that they do not merit a mention, let alone a debate, among human beings.

What should be debated is how we can develop fusion nuclear power that can dispose of nuclear toxic waste so we can desalinate dirty oily Gulf of Mexico water into fresh drinking water.
guajiro   12:25 PM on 9/26/2010
Agreed, I cannot believe anyone could provide an argument in favor of war as a way of putting people back to work. I live in South Texas and our much of our water supply is from the Gulf of Mexico. The cities and water entities drill water well a few miles offshore to get water that is much lower in salinity and thus cheaper to desalinate. The water tastes good. Additionally, there is no need to subsidize the giant Agri-businesses to continue an unsustainable method of ethanol production. Cellulosic ethanol is self-sustaining and has been black-balled by the government for far too long.
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Biodiversivist   11:20 AM on 9/26/2010
"...benefit from inclusion of ethanol in the gasoline?"

It costs $1.78 per gallon more at the pump according to the CBO:

http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/ngreene/the_real_c­ost_of_the­_corn_etha.html

Consumer Reports found it lowers gas mileage 27 percent:

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/news/2006/ethanol-10-06/overview/1006_ethanol_ov1_1.htm

Corn just crashed through $5 a bushel again. It sold for $2 a bushel for a decade before the ethanol mandates were codified.

It also increases air pollution:

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/02/02/0812835106.full.pdf

and according to the EPA, it also increases green house gases:

http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/slyutse/as_i_discu­ssed_here_­last.html

"However, to single out the tax credit available to blenders of gasoline?"

These "blenders of gasoline" are "oil companies." and use the credit to lower the price of gasoline at the pump so consumers will consume more "gasoline." We are importing just as much oil as we were before ethanol.

"...has in fact generated billions more in additional tax revenues?"

It has generated no additional tax revenue above the oil revenue it displaced.

"...with 112,000 jobs directly linked to the fate of the tax credit?"

According to this study those job numbers are a farce:

http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/ngreene/big_ethano­l_is_using­_bad_jobs.html.
BurtReynolds   12:03 PM on 9/26/2010
Thank you for this breakdown. I read that second paragraph and was scratching my head to figure out how the heck corn-based ethanol benefits me at the pump or anywhere for that matter.
LazarusTJFA   22 hours ago (4:17 PM)
It does not. Even 10% ethanol gets at least 10% fewer miles per gallon than 100% gasoline. At a 10% mpg loss, there is absolutely no benefit to ethanol at all, except 10% of what you are paying for gasoline gets you nothing. If your mpg drops more than 10%, you are paying to actually increase your use of gasoline & still get nothing positive from the ethanol. It had the same characteristics back when it was first used around 1980. Ethanol has not improved since & car's ability to derive any benefit from it have not either.