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Asian cricketers should ditch IPL riches to learn the county game

As greats such as Imran Khan or Kapil Dev have proved, a taste of first-class cricket in England can strengthen the Test credentials of subcontinental players

Umar Akmal, Pakistan
Players such as Umar Akmal could aid their all-round game with a stint in English county cricket. Photograph: Gareth Copley/PA

Bishan Singh Bedi. Mushtaq Mohammad. Majid Khan. Farokh Engineer. Zaheer Abbas. Imran Khan. Sunil Gavaskar. Kapil Dev. Javed Miandad. Wasim Akram. Sachin Tendulkar. Aravinda de Silva. Muttiah Muralitharan. Rahul Dravid. All candidates for an all-time Asian XI, and tied together by a common thread – county cricket.

Over the past few years, it's become fashionable to run down England's first-class competition. The standard perhaps isn't what it once was with fewer top-quality internationals free in the summer, but there's still a world of experience to be gained for a young prospect. The struggles of Pakistan's callow batting line-up in England, and the toothlessness of India's pace bowlers in Sri Lanka straightaway make one wonder just how much they'd benefit from a finishing school that helped the likes of Vivian Richards and Richard Hadlee.

Forget the quality of the opposition. Forget the paltry crowds. Think instead of a variety of venues, and an itinerary that puts the emphasis on match fitness rather than looking like a Manpower model. One week, you could be batting on a placid pitch where boredom is the biggest threat, and the next week will find you struggling to put wood on leather as the ball swings and seams prodigiously in overcast conditions.

As a slow bowler, you could revel one week on a dry surface and then get belted the next as the ball moves little off the straight. It adds up to the kind of well-rounded education that every young professional needs.

These days, fewer and fewer Asian prospects try their luck on English soil. In some cases, there's opposition bordering on hostility from their boards. And with others, it's the counties that get cold feet, considering them more of a risk than a reliable Kolpak-type signing who'll be around for the full season.

In some cases, the barriers placed in front of players make no sense at all. Piyush Chawla was not part of India's Test campaign in Sri Lanka and he isn't playing the one-dayers either. Neither is Yusuf Pathan. But despite Chawla's success at Sussex last season both men were stopped from being part of the county game this year. So was VVS Laxman, whose India appearances these days are restricted to Tests alone.

Apart from the pathetic clash of wills with the ECB – Lalit Modi and Giles Clarke specialised in this my-mum's-better-than-yours game – the reason advanced for the players being cotton-woolled is that they'll be too fatigued for assignments later in the season. That would have made sense if all the players hadn't been part of yet another gruelling IPL season.

The IPL, with its huge crowds and international cast, is certainly a test of a youngster's temperament, but it hardly prepares him for cricket at the highest level. It was instructive to listen to Rahul Dravid talk about Suresh Raina a couple of months ago, when he was on the cusp of a Test debut.

"There will be questions asked of his technique, and he'll be tested physically and emotionally too," said Dravid. "That's why Test cricket is a searching examination that goes on right through your career. In Twenty20 and one-day cricket, you can avoid certain questions. With Test cricket, you need to have all the answers."

That pertinent point has been beautifully illustrated during Pakistan's tour of England. Umar Akmal's career started off with some eye-catching innings, but in four Tests under challenging conditions, he hasn't once crossed 22. It's not that he's become a bad player overnight. It's just that he's confronting situations for which no amount of domestic cricket in India or Pakistan can equip you.

In the old days, when the Headingley scoreboard showed 0 for 4, players from east of Suez and west of Malacca weren't considered good enough for a county side. In fact, Vinoo Mankad was called up for the Lord's Test of 1952 while playing for Haslingden in the Lancashire leagues. What he did in that game did more for the profile of Indian cricket than much of what had taken place in the previous two decades, and there will be many Bangladeshis who hope that Tamim Iqbal's heroics earlier this summer are the start of something special rather than an aberration.

Players such as Chawla and even Ishant Sharma would benefit immeasurably from a few weeks on the county circuit. They only need to look at the man who was India's bowling talisman when they won in England in 2007. Zaheer Khan had been dropped and was on the road to nowhere when he pitched up at New Road in 2006. After 78 wickets at a measly average, he was back in the fold for a tour of South Africa. He's seldom looked back since.

"The best part about county cricket is you get to play non-stop and you're doing stuff absolutely on your own," said Zaheer in an interview last year. "You are not in a familiar environment. That forces you to think much more. If you are serious, it improves your game."

Ishant has had three mediocre seasons of IPL. He may have banked close to $3 million (£1.9m) in that time, but has only regressed as a bowler. And while those who have worked with him at the national level deserve some of the blame, his decline has become Exhibit A in the clash between traditional cricket and the 20-over version.

Once your technique is as well-honed as Tendulkar's or Glenn McGrath's, it doesn't matter what form of cricket you play. McGrath bowled some sublime spells in the first season of IPL, in withering summer heat. Tendulkar was top scorer last season. Just as Mozart had no trouble composing nursery rhymes, so great cricketers transcend formats.

But when you see Umar Akmal flailing at a ball two feet outside off stump, you wonder how much Twenty20 has wreaked havoc with unpolished techniques. The subcontinent places so much emphasis on limited-overs cricket, with its shirtfront pitches and one-bouncer rule, that batting at Headingley or Edgbaston becomes a Rubik's Cube in the hand of a toddler.

These days, A team tours aim to correct such glitches, but those who really need the experience seldom find a place there. Instead, they rot away in some academy or on the senior bench, waiting for chances that never come. And the county deals that they agreed in principle go to a South African or Australian, who then uses it as a springboard to something better.

When Pakistan cricket was at its strongest, they boasted a squad whose key members had all been steeled in the county crucible. That's no longer the case, and if the successors to the Majid-Zaheer-Javed tradition are not half as good, it's also because they haven't had anything like the same exposure. The Pakistan Cricket Board is a prime candidate for reviving the Carry On series, so farcical are some of its decisions, but if they want to do something right, they should tell Mohammad Irfan, the seven-foot giant, to forget about the Kolkata Knight Riders and look to England instead.


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  • rufusgizmo rufusgizmo

    11 Aug 2010, 1:30PM

    I agree totally. The same is true for England players who go abroad. I'm glad that Worcester have got Shakib al-Hasan at the moment and that he's doing well - Bangladesh players have more to gain than most from playing county cricket.

  • lucyferr lucyferr

    11 Aug 2010, 1:45PM

    You have a point, even if you couch it in a ton of traditionalist tripe.

    First, let's get rid of the idea that Test cricket is the pinnacle of cricket. It's not. It's effing boring, and it's going out the door (Ashes excepted, since that can attract crowds). T20 cricket is what matters most - because that is the future.

    Also, money in the bank matters. Sure, when you're in your early twenties, you can play any cricket, but you've got to bring home the bacon sometime. So scoffing at the Ishants of this world for making a lot of IPL greens really is mostly the green - a different kind of green - in you showing.

    Now, that's not to say long forms of cricket aren't useful. They are. They do help to develop technique, and that's really important for young players. And playing in England would be useful for the different kinds of surfaces involved. (Of course, playing in Australia would be even more useful, but most Indian - and English - players wouldn't be good enough to play there.)

    So yes - I actually do agree with you - county stints for young Indian (and other) players are a great idea. Because, you see, the primary use of multiday cricket is as a training ground for T20 cricket. The most country cricket one plays, the better player one can become, and the more money one can then make in T20 leagues like the IPL.

  • prostheses prostheses

    11 Aug 2010, 1:52PM

    Spot on Dileep. Pakistan's batting just looks so naive at the moment.

    @rufusgizmo
    Yep, just a pity that Shakib had to play a bunch of pointless games and couldn't get to Worcs sooner! Mind you, probably a fairly similar experience Worcs and Bangladesh: you're going to get stuffed most games.

    Also, why has nobody signed Tamin Iqbal? He looks some player.

  • Nizza1966 Nizza1966

    11 Aug 2010, 2:03PM

    Very timely

    The good example of the positive effects that experience of county cricket can have on Asian cricketers is Murali Kartik who is taking wickets for fun for Somerset, having done so for Middlesex and before that Lancashire over the past five years

    Ok, so the presence of Harbhajan and Kumble might have prevented his permanent elevation to the Indian test side but his test record is better than either of the two present incumbents, Ohja and Mishra

    I can't help but think that India would be better served with him in the side in England next summer rather than leaving him to continue cleaning up at Taunton

    Chances are, of course, that the board would sooner pick Ohja and Mishra, neither of whom has much experience in English conditions with Chawla as back up having insanely denied him the opportunity to play for Surrey earlier this season as Dileep notes

    It is hardly the players' fault if this pig-headedness continues to prevent them from becoming fully-rounded cricketers

  • ThamesSider ThamesSider

    11 Aug 2010, 2:05PM

    Good article. Most players, including more than a few England stalwarts, benefit hugely from long apprenticeships at county level - Swann or Sidebottom are prime current examples, vastly improved for the bowling they've had there. Similarly I can't see how it could be anything but beneficial (assuming they don't injure themselves) for learning players to turn out for equivalent level sides in Australia, or South Africa, if they can. I don't know what the sub-continent sides are like, but again surely there is where players should be mastering their skills.

    @lucyferr
    T20 the future? I can only assume this is a sophisticated troll.
    T20 is a cut-down highlights package steadily more lacking in highlights. At best it achieves a mild artificial tension, and more often its only redeeming feature for the spectator is that it's over quickly. It hugely devalues skill and application, at the expense of slogging with the bat and containment with the ball.
    It may be, currently, the most lucrative form of the game for players. Well, Big Brother was the apotheosis of TV for some years...

    All spectacle and no substance makes for quickly jaded audiences, and not the kind who will stay and support in the long term. It ha a place as a convenient entertainment at a cheap price, but if you see it as the ultimate then you can only believe that the goal of sport is making money, and I think there you are very mistaken.

  • dirkgently dirkgently

    11 Aug 2010, 2:22PM

    deborahharry

    ur, dirkgently, are you in a timewarp from 2001?

    No, I've just been conditioned to think that England are rubbish from spending too much time reading Australians writing about England.

    Thames Sider

    imagine we had no county cricket. What would we do then?

    I shudder to think.

  • Graem Graem

    11 Aug 2010, 2:29PM

    Good article - good subject matter

    From the counties perspective, the only Pakistan players that would interest any of them would be Mohammads Aamer and Asif, Umar Gul and possibly Salman Butt. Umar Akmal would be something of a gamble.

    Given that Pakistan got to the West Indies next spring and to South Africa next autumn, any Pakistani Test player would only be available for the middle of the season, which is when counties play their T20 cricket not their 1st class cricket.

    From the counties point of view, signing the likes of Yasir Arafat, Rana Naved and Younus Khan to play a whole season looks a better idea.

  • dirkgently dirkgently

    11 Aug 2010, 2:31PM

    India have shot themselves in the foot.

    There is a phrase that the NHS is much admired around the world but never copied.

    Well County Cricket in England has served as a finishing school for many players around the world as Dilleep rightly points out. However, the IPL is a tournament that is so long and self-serving of the team owner's interests that its like the BCCI have taken the English county system and super-sized it for India.

    The effects of the IPL on the Indian team's performances have been there to see. They have not qualified for a Semi-final of any global one-day tournament since the first IPL season.

    The IPL is giving overseas teams experience on the sub-continent and is now stopping Indian players from travelling overseas to further learn their trade in England.

    Yusuf Pathan's playing for Essex was blocked, Essex then went and signed Scott Styris who scored plenty of runs to help Essex to Twenty20 finals day.

    Yesterday his performance, along with Ross Taylor lead to a crushing 200 run defeat for India by New Zealand.

  • Graem Graem

    11 Aug 2010, 2:45PM

    The most interesting bit about Dileep's article is that he said asian players should play county cricket instead of IPL, which is saying more than most people would.

    The PCB will not be particularly anxious for their players to play in the IPL despite comments made by Kevin Pietersen at the beginning of the year, that England bowlers like Stuart Broad ought to play in the IPL. [KP argued that the IPL gave invaluable experience which would help England in the World T20.]

    Well England didn't need the IPL experience to win the T20 World Cup and neither did Pakistan need it to win the World Cup twice before then.

    It seems likely that most of England's players and all Pakistanis will again not be playing in next year's IPL.

    The money paid by the IPL to players was so much that I would not be surprised if many overseas players did not return to the IPL in future.

    Therefore, for the IPL to remain relevant, and not disintegrate into a sub-standard tournament like the ICL because it could not attract the best players, it has to ensure that the best Indian players continue to play in it.

    Which, due to the all-year-round demands of the international scedule, means no county cricket.

  • Nizza1966 Nizza1966

    11 Aug 2010, 2:58PM

    @Graem

    I'd prefer Stuart Broad to have played more county cricket, and for that matter, Shield cricket, ahead of the IPL as he is just one of perhaps a number of England players who have one hell of a surprise coming down under this winter

    If nothing else, it would have taught him to take the rough with the smooth so that instead of throwing his toys out of the pram during one-way processions like the Edgbaston test, he saves his 'fury' for when it really matters such as when Ponting and M Clarke are pasting us all round the Gabba with the sun out and the Kookaburra staying arrow straight through the air for 80 overs (hey, surprise boys!)

    I know I am invoking the all roads lead to Brisbane theme but it does look like we've despatched Pakistan fairly convincingly so I make no apology

  • dirkgently dirkgently

    11 Aug 2010, 3:12PM

    Kaneria took over 70 wickets last year for Essex to get them promoted to division 1, sadly for him it hasn't helped him to keep his place in the test side for Pakistan.

  • BackwardPoint BackwardPoint

    11 Aug 2010, 3:32PM

    It would be great to see Tamim Iqbal playing county cricket, though not being very familiar with English conditions didn't seem to bother him in the slightest earlier this summer. (Tamim is the correct spelling, I believe?)
    It seems odd that none of the IPL teams were interested in him this year, but there have also been reports (in TWC, I think) that he has some health problems. I don't know if that is semi-officially known or just reports floating around the press box, but if it's true the Bangladeshis would be well advised to keep him wrapped in cotton wool.

  • Nizza1966 Nizza1966

    11 Aug 2010, 3:36PM

    @Graem

    Oh yes, hadn't seen that

    More broadly though, so to speak, if English players are not playing county cricket then:

    a. one by one counties will die due to a lack of quality failing to attract crowds to sustain them, augmented by the ECB's insane international match bidding process which drives them to build, build, build themselves into debt

    b. they themselves will less equipped to adapt their games to suit environments as diverse as, say, Galle, Perth or Dunedin

    and

    c. unless they are playing internationals or in the IPL, they are not playing at all (sorry if there's a thread on KP/Hampshire I've missed)

  • datters datters

    11 Aug 2010, 3:47PM

    I think Fairbrother went to play in India in either the very late 80s or early 90s to improve his technique against spin, and it worked.

    In fact I was down to go and play in India in 1994 / 95 to improve my bowling on dead tracks, but retired before going with stress fracture of the back. It is still just about my biggest regret in terms of a lost opportunity.

  • Bumboclart Bumboclart

    11 Aug 2010, 4:02PM

    How many counties are there?

    18?

    Each can play 2 overseas players (coorect me if I am wrong) so you have 36 spots for all the Pakistani, Indian, Sri Lankan, Bangladeshi and West Indian (since they need help too) players. Not too mention the other nations.

    Stop living in the past!!

    Why on Earth should 18 English entities focused on winning titles and making money be the finishing ground for any other nation's cricketers in 2010?

    Yeah, county cricket was a finishing school for Viv Richards and Richard Hadlee amongst many others. How long ago was that?

    Instead of pushing forward a world cricketing landscape where there would be actually no need for any player to have to play in some other country's FC system as a finishing school, we are still stuck in a mindset of everyone dying to get an overseas slot in an English county.

    What happens when the English say they don't want any overseas players?

  • dirkgently dirkgently

    11 Aug 2010, 4:14PM

    bumboclart

    How many counties are there?

    Derbyshire
    Durham
    Essex
    Glamorgan
    Gloucestershire
    Hampshire
    Kent
    Lancashire
    Leicestershire
    Middlesex
    Northamptonshire
    Nottinghamshire
    Somerset
    Surrey
    Sussex
    Warwickshire
    Worcestershire
    Yorkshire

    Each can have ONE overseas player.

  • insanityprawnboy insanityprawnboy

    11 Aug 2010, 4:23PM

    Bumboclart

    I see Dirk Gently has answered the numbers question...

    I think Dileep's point is more that the Asian boards were being stupid in preventing their players from taking part in county cricket, not that the counties had some sort of obligation to act as a finishing school for any and all overseas Internationals who want a place - which is what you seem to think he was saying. This would indeed be ridiculous...

    I totally agree with other posters regarding our own players gaining overseas experience. Whether any English players would get into Shield teams is somewhat moot, given the benefit evident in a number of players over the years from playing a season or two in grade cricket down under. And let us not forget that Jimmy Adams used to prepare for Windies tours of England by playing for a Lancashire league team. The benefit is as much from experiencing foreign conditions as from the opposition.

  • Windian Windian

    11 Aug 2010, 6:42PM

    Bumboclart's argument, if I'm not mistaken, was that countries should look inwards to groom talent rather than relying on the limited overseas slots available in county teams.

    Dileep's point I believe is meant to apply to young players who've just broken into their national teams or are on the verge of doing so. Batsmen and spin bowlers should indeed try to get county exposure and also some IPL action if they can in order to cover the entire spectrum of challenges the game can present. Fast bowlers must be choosy. They can either bowl a few overs in the IPL for a very good payday but get hammered all around, or do the hard yards by bowling long county spells for modest cash and emerge better bowlers.

  • mannschaft2010 mannschaft2010

    11 Aug 2010, 6:42PM

    Dileep I agree with you on a point that county circuit is good to improve the skills of people.

    But the big question from Indian perspective is ---
    1. which country is the the world champion in Baseball.
    2. Which country won the Olympic gold in Baseball.

    Well the answers to above questions don't matter and that is what BCCI trying to build here in India.

    In India we are trying to create our own WORLD SERIES.

    May be 10-15 years down the line IPL will be equivalent of WORLD SERIES and SUPER BOWL.

    As an IPL fan, I do go and watch home matches, and want my team to do well irrespective of what Indian team does in international cricket.

  • insertfunnyusername insertfunnyusername

    11 Aug 2010, 7:02PM

    Graem,

    "The money paid by the IPL to players was so much that I would not be surprised if many overseas players did not return to the IPL in future.

    Therefore, for the IPL to remain relevant, and not disintegrate into a sub-standard tournament like the ICL because it could not attract the best players,
    "

    This seems very much like wishcasting to me. KP, to pick one example, wouldn't want to go play in the IPL in the future, for even more money, because he has earned a couple million?

    How many players, how many people on this board for that matter, will turn down a big money offer from the IPL, not mention the endorsement opportunities, if they have made a few million?

  • Bumboclart Bumboclart

    11 Aug 2010, 7:05PM

    The argument is instead of using English county cricket and whatever benefits it may bring aim to provide those same benefits in your own individual countries first.

    Away from all the BCCI v ECB politics, how can the availability of just 18 slots per year be of benefit in the long term to cricketers from Asia or anywhere else?

    If the problem in Asia is "shirtfront pitches" then why not aim to change that first? The vast majority of Asian cricketers won't get contracts to play even league cricket in England so why not improve the conditions at home so the need to have them go abroad to get finished off is not needed?

    On an individual basis you can say to a specific cricketer that maybe a year in England, if he can get a contract, might do him well.

    But surely for a board which has to look on a wider basis, they should be implenting strategy to ensure that the need for ANY other country to act as a finishing school is not necessary.

    Experience in another county should be making an already finished or very close to finished article BETTER.

    Your finishing school should be at home if you are running your cricket correctly.

  • insertfunnyusername insertfunnyusername

    11 Aug 2010, 7:09PM

    lucyferr,

    "First, let's get rid of the idea that Test cricket is the pinnacle of cricket. It's not. It's effing boring, and it's going out the door (Ashes excepted, since that can attract crowds). T20 cricket is what matters most - because that is the future."

    How do you know that Test cricket not attracting the crowds is simply due to the fact that many people are at work when Tests are played, and not due to lack of interest?

    If Test cricket can somehow figure out a solution such that it is played when people are not working, T20 loses one of its big advantages in terms of attracting attendance.

  • insertfunnyusername insertfunnyusername

    11 Aug 2010, 7:16PM

    mannschaft2010,

    "But the big question from Indian perspective is ---
    1. which country is the the world champion in Baseball.
    2. Which country won the Olympic gold in Baseball.

    Well the answers to above questions don't matter and that is what BCCI trying to build here in India.

    In India we are trying to create our own WORLD SERIES.

    May be 10-15 years down the line IPL will be equivalent of WORLD SERIES and SUPER BOWL. "

    This might surprise you, but the answer to your 2 questions matter to the people who run MLB (who want to see baseball expand significantly), and also various other pro baseball leagues such as Japan's NPB, and to baseball fans who want to see baseball expand.

    MLB started the World Baseball Classics in 2006, which has been played in 2006, and then 2009, based on the football World Cup model. The next one will be in 2013. Especially in countries like Japan, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico (yes, it is not actually a country) the WBC is taken very seriously.

    And given the IPL's desire to break into America, and to expand globally, I would think that those questions matter to the IPL too.

  • Dileep Dileep

    11 Aug 2010, 9:24PM

    Contributor Contributor

    Even if pitches on the subcontinent stopped being shirtfronts, you'd rarely get the swing you find in overcast English conditions.
    As for being envious of the money Ishant and others make...please! My point is that at 21, no matter what profession you choose, the emphasis should be on developing skills. The money follows from that. Any player with good advisors will realise that. Which is where I hope Anil Kumble's proposal to educate Indian cricketers and give them the right guidance will come in useful.

  • Bowler300 Bowler300

    11 Aug 2010, 9:37PM

    How can the IPL brand next months worldwide club tournament as the Champions League, when the champions from the last 2 T20 World Cups are not playing? Maybe it should be rebranded the Runners Up League?

  • Bowler300 Bowler300

    11 Aug 2010, 9:38PM

    How can the IPL brand next months worldwide club tournament as the Champions League, when the champions from the last 2 T20 World Cups are not represented? Maybe it should be rebranded the Runners Up League?

  • Sassenach Sassenach

    11 Aug 2010, 9:40PM

    I think the jury is still out on the longevity of the IPL. I'm sure it won't just go away but at the same time I'm not convinced that it can keep on growing so rapidly, or for that matter that the team owners can afford to keep on running at a loss (which so far as I'm aware is what they've been doing). The biggest talking point round the IPl is and always has been the money it attracts and the salaries it pays. That was a novelty at first because cricket has always been a relatively low-paid sport, but I'd say people are bored of that narrative now so it will be necessary to provide a really top-notch product to keep their fickle attention. Can T20 as a format really provide that ? I have to say I have my doubts.

  • Fulhamish Fulhamish

    11 Aug 2010, 10:29PM

    I fear it's not just Asian cricketers who will suffer. If you look at the standard of county attacks compared to ten or twenty years ago you wonder whether the young English/naturalised Saffa/Irish batsmen coming into the test side are likely to be in for a culture shock. You don't see many of the best foreign - or English for that matter - bowlers in county cricket any more.

  • Cameldancer Cameldancer

    11 Aug 2010, 11:53PM

    Said it before, will say it again:

    The long form hones the skills.

    20:20 today is so entertaining precisely because those playing it have hit / bowled 000s of balls in FC cricket and are prepared for any situation.

    Dileep

    considering them more of a risk than a reliable Kolpak-type signing who'll be around for the full season.

    Not really true that, is it? Kolpaks are preferred by counties (short-sightedly in my view) because they can be played as non-overseas players.

    Asian players cannot be.

    The question is how you persuade counties to take Asian players as overseas instead of Aus / SA / NZ / WI players, not instead of Kolpaks.

  • Dileep Dileep

    12 Aug 2010, 12:01AM

    Contributor Contributor

    On a completely different tack, this is the last regular blog from me. I hope to be writing again, but it will be far more sporadic.
    Been fun doing it for four years. My thanks to everyone who's ever contributed to a discussion here. You've been great. Special thanks to the regulars who tuned in week after week.

  • insanityprawnboy insanityprawnboy

    12 Aug 2010, 12:09AM

    Bumboclart

    Ah, gotcha - wasn't clear what you were arguing for but I take your point. I wonder whether there's an element of getting tied up in semantics with this discussion in that, whether or not the article is finished by experience in county cricket or not, there seems to be a broad consensus that players from any given country will benefit from playing in other countries' conditions as preparation for international matches (be they Test matches, T20 or anything in between) in those conditions.

  • dirkgently dirkgently

    12 Aug 2010, 1:43AM

    It's a shame thatMouthoftheMersey hasn't commented on this piece, he'd agree that County cricket isn't as rubbish as it is made out to be.

    As Shane Warne once said in 2007 "any system that can produce a cricketer like Andrew Flintoff is doing something right".

  • dirkgently dirkgently

    12 Aug 2010, 1:48AM

    Bumboclart

    The vast majority of Asian cricketers won't get contracts to play even league cricket in England

    Not so, Herath of Sri Lanka was called up to the test side last year from League Cricket.

    With ECB 20 premier leagues operating below first-class cricket in England there is a chance to earn valuable experience in conditions that will challenge your skills as a cricketer.

  • PuntersRockHardAbs PuntersRockHardAbs

    12 Aug 2010, 2:10AM

    @Nizza1966

    There would be uproar here in Austrlaia if any shield team signed any current English player, not least in an Ashes year. It just wouldn't happen.

    It is all well and good to say, 'send em down to shield cricket'. Fact is, no shield team here would take any English player. There are 6 teams here and positions are highly sought after.

    Walking the streets of my local town the other day, the word was that England aren't as good as they think they are, or think they are going to be. A lot of people took a lot of heart from England's performance in the latter stages of the 2nd test.

    Dummy spits from Broad, poor captaincy from Strauss, lifeless bowling from the seamers. Im not here to say Australia is a great team, but gee you guys have got another thing coming if you think beating us on OUR turf will be easy.

    Our crowds will be baying for blood; Stuey Broad will be like a red rag to a bull in front of our crowds, full of lager. We all remember the disgraceful treatment handed out to Ponting and we will be ready to repay with interest.

    Australia is a tough country. I have seen grown men pick up some of the world's deadliest snakes and crack their backs like a whip to kill them. I have seen men stay up days on end to work their hands to the bone on farms. This is not a country for the faint hearted.

    If it bleeds we can kill it.

    And we think the England cricket team bleeds.

  • antipepp antipepp

    12 Aug 2010, 2:29AM

    100% agree with Dileep that County cricket is hugely beneficial for young international cricketers. Even if the quality isn't always great, the volume and variety makes it worthwhile.

    The evidence is there, as the rise and fall of the West Indies, Pakistan, New Zealand and to some extent even Australia mirror participation in county cricket.

    Having said that, I also 100% with Bumboclart that domestic bodies, with financial assistance from the ICC, should be looking to make their own domestic competitions more meaningful as a proper finishing school.

    The other question is, what do overseas players do for England?

    My view is the young ones that benefit most from the experience give the least back. The take but don't give, only because they don't have much to offer. But with veterans like Warne, Lehmann, Langer and Mushtaq Ahmed the opposite is true.

    So if you're main aim is to cultivate the English game, it would make sense to limit overseas players to those that can play a full season and perhaps with an age limit too.

    But if the aim is altruism, give all the contracts to young Asian or West Indian players.

    I would exclude the 20/20 from this - England should be looking at a city/franchise IPL model for it with 4-6 imports anyway.

  • Mousikus Mousikus

    12 Aug 2010, 2:38AM

    And now I see that you won't be writing these pieces regularly anymore! Oh well. Blogs they may have been, but they stood out as exemplifying test-like skill in a sea of Twenty20 instant Guardian dross.

  • deggles deggles

    12 Aug 2010, 2:44AM

    There is a lot of confused reasoning here about why players from outside England have traditionally gravitated towards county cricket.

    First and foremost, England is the only nation playing first class cricket from April to October, so there are 9 other nations full of potential players with no alternate cricket during this time. The biggest change in the past decade is that international cricket has become a full-time profession, meaning, for a county, they are better off getting a full-time Australian/South African without international commitments, than a part-time NZ/WI/Pakistani/Sri Lankan who can't be relied on. It is the glut of international cricket, not the IPL that is preventing players from coming to the county game.

    Secondly, until 10-20 years ago, only England could boast a professional league, so there was no incentive for English players to travel - though plenty of young players have played in Australia, at least at district level. Nowadays, given the English senior and A squads normally travel during the winter, the option for an overseas first class side is the 3xth best player in England. In leagues with generally only 66 first team places (78 including the perennially absent test side), an English professional is probably no better than a useful squad member. (By contrast the 2xth best player in Australia/South Africa is generally in the top 1 or 2 players in each side, for an 18 team county competition).

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