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Some radio voices never age. Sadly, their owners do

With Robert Robinson's retirement from Brain of Britain, we've lost another of a great, eternal-seeming generation of radio personalities. Who will replace them?

Robert Robinson
Robert Robinson: eccentric, unhurried civility. Photograph: BBC

And so we are losing another great radio voice. Robert Robinson is to retire as host of Brain of Britain after more than 30 years' tenure on the fiendishly difficult, fiendishly courteous and otherworldly general knowledge quiz. He's been away for periods of time in the past decade due to illness, replaced by Peter Snow and Russell Davies, but always with the promise of a return. That's now ruled out.

The funny thing is that, when I heard this news, I thought less about the fusty old programme itself and more about Robinson's voice. I don't really mind who takes over, to be honest, because it won't be the same without him. It's like that with I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue, which revolved around Humph to a degree that makes me think, on reflection, that it's time to wrap it up without him and seek another show from scratch.

Some radio shows are simply defined by their hosts. Robinson brought to BoB an eccentric, unhurried civility, with his use of honorifics and surnames (Mr Spicer, Mrs Baker), and an in-built quaintness that long outlived the era it might have belonged to. I'm not convinced it ever truly did stem from one, really, with its mix of 1950s formality and oddly polite Victorian parlour game, yet it was a gentle, endearing illusion. But it worked, and quietly defined itself as a radio institution, hosted by an unsung national treasure. The winner of each year's title, among 48 contestants, took home no more a silver salver and the title; the listener who could beat the contestants with two questions for the Beat the Brains feature got a humble book token.

We've lost too many of these hosts, and voices, of late from radio, to retirement or the wireless in the sky. One thinks fondly of Humphrey Lyttelton, Alistair Cooke, John Cushnie, Charles Wheeler, Wogan (I don't count that Sunday show – it doesn't work), Nick Clarke, Ned Sherrin, all of whom brought to radio the feel and sound of a disappearing world: polite, intimate, square and old-fashioned, but lovably so.

These sorts of voices are at the heart of radio – without visuals and with the feel of a one-to-one conversation, they never seem to age or alter, and become the heart of their programmes, enveloping and shaping them in a way that telly can't match. It's hard to imagine who might be the next generation of these voices, and we don't want to lose the last few we have left. I'd like to insist for starters that Nicholas Parsons is bubble-wrapped and carried around at all times by grateful minions from now on.


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  • Garkpit Garkpit

    4 Aug 2010, 10:29AM

    An excellent piece, which, through that roll-call of lost names, made me feel quite nostalgic for the radio 4 I grew up with. Might I add Brian Redhead to the list of the fallen?

  • drsocialpolicy drsocialpolicy

    4 Aug 2010, 10:44AM

    While I only rarely get a chance to listen to Brain of Britain, knowing it was there with Robert Robinson was one of the great pillars of Radio 4's contribution to our radio listening culture. His departure - along with the list of hosts - made me feel a pang of middle aged nostalgia.

    The ageing but young at heart Nicholas Parsons on Just a Minute is one of the last great hosts left on Radio 4 and he is still absolutely superb. Although only a player, I'd be tempted to add the name and voice of Clement Freud to the list of the dearly missed.

    As long as his minions don't asphyxiate the old boy with bubble wrap, I think that it is a pretty good idea that the estimable Nicholas Parsons shoud be carried around at all times.

  • glynluke glynluke

    4 Aug 2010, 10:45AM

    Couldn`t agree more (except for the paean to Parsons, who is unendurably pedantic on Just a Minute; "Will you please welcome - all four of THEM!" The word is normally pronounced `TH`M`.).
    There are now presenters & commentators I sometimes switch off to avoid hearing: Naughtie, Humphries when he`s swallowing his words, Peston (whose voice, in the phrase of a mate of mine, makes my shit itch), Ken Bruce whose popularity I can`t fathom as he sounds like he`s being facetious & tongue-in-cheek with every word he speaks, the drawly Jeremy Vine...and it`s far worse on TV, but that`s another story.
    Robert Robinson will be much missed; only kept alive now by Stephen Fry`s occasional, wonderfully exact impressions of him on QI.

  • redlentil redlentil

    4 Aug 2010, 10:46AM

    I was a contestant on Brain of Britain 3 years ago, and Robinson seemed physically very frail, but if you closed your eyes, he was the same as ever. Although I was pretty unsuccessful, I was so glad I'd been in the great man's presence.

  • MelonMouse MelonMouse

    4 Aug 2010, 10:52AM

    I think you are being a tad unfair on Clue. Radio 7 is showing with its Eighties repeats how lifeless some of the older episodes are (no fault of Humph) some of the new ones are a bit raucous nowadays, but better that than awkward silences.

    Desert Island Discs has showed that it is possible to change the big "voice" and keep the overall concept of the programme running smoothly (some changes more successfully that others though it has to be said)

    I'd be quite happy for Nicholas Parsons to be bubble-wrapped. (With no airhole)

    Just to clarify, I put "AIR-hole"

  • PristineAudio PristineAudio

    4 Aug 2010, 11:20AM

    I'm sure someone on Dead Ringers used to do an excellent Robert Robinson impression - perhaps they ought to fill his shoes, doing his voice, and try and preserve the illusion...

  • mrparnsip mrparnsip

    4 Aug 2010, 11:24AM

    Ah the voice of post tea-time torture and ennui i.e. Ask the Family;

    "And so to the Whittington-Smythes; can you identify this ordinary household object from this blurred black and white photograph… "

    That sinister zither music, and one of those mirror image optical illusions…
    one hideous and hideously dull middle-class family with no personality pitted against another…
    like being trapped in a cupboard with your Uncles from Carshalton.

    The horror, the horror.

    PS Jack Dee is perfect on ISIHAC.

  • matmos111 matmos111

    4 Aug 2010, 11:25AM

    On the other hand there is that (relatively) new guy on late night Radio 4 who does the shipping. Sounds like he's got a mouthful of Kendall mint cake AND clotted- cream fudge and makes Cape Wrath sound like something you might wrap yourself up in... But he'll probably be there, keeping us safe, for the next hundred years I would have thought.

  • bustedflush bustedflush

    4 Aug 2010, 11:28AM

    Although these are TV voices, could we add Oliver Postgate (Ivor the Engine, The Clangers etc.), Johnny Morris and Tony Hart to that list of those who've gone to the loudspeaker in the sky.

  • TerribleLyricist TerribleLyricist

    4 Aug 2010, 11:31AM

    How I mourn Nick Clarke! - Round Britain Quiz only worked, like BoB with RR, because of him. Martha Kearney should have stayed at Newsnight, where she was excellent - she's a TV person, not a radio voice. Shaun Ley has what it takes for WATO, but Martha is able to pull rank.

    But I digress. We should put Kate Adie in aspic too, along with Robin Lustig.

    Back to Robert Robinson - he also did some interesting interviews. I remember seeing one he did with Erich Fromm - a typically high brow affair of the sort the BBC would never do these days, more's the pity.

  • bustedflush bustedflush

    4 Aug 2010, 11:35AM

    donds (to use the RR lingo) for Robin Lustig. I listen to the world service on which he is by far the greatest speaker.

    Digression into TMS-land. I've very much enjoyed listening to Michael Vaughan and Phil Tufnell. But can we 'retire' that dear old thing that is Henry Blofeld.

  • Gerbilator Gerbilator

    4 Aug 2010, 12:08PM

    Can't agree about Clue....Humph was great in his heyday, but that was around 1990. Jack Dee is every bit as cutting and lugubrious (unlike attempted replacement Stephen "Overexposed" Fry), and just 48 years old, which means he's good for another 30-plus years as the host.

    Should see me out...

  • sheepshank sheepshank

    4 Aug 2010, 12:12PM

    That's sad... I hoped he'd come back to Brain of Britain. He's the kind of idiosyncratic type that radio needs and doesn't have in the same numbers, although we never appreciate what we have until they're gone. I was listening to Jenni Murray this morning and I'd put her in the same category, and Peter Alliss for TV.

  • Scurra Scurra

    4 Aug 2010, 12:28PM

    Well, as someone who is perfectly happy with Kirsty Wark, Eddie Mair, Tom Sutcliffe, Mark Lawson etc, I think there are just as many fine presenters today on Radio 4 as there ever were. The difference today is that the minority of people who can't abide someone have outlets like this to make it sound as though they are in a massive majority.

  • Mustard57 Mustard57

    4 Aug 2010, 12:35PM

    It's a testament to the quality of R4 that we feel so much affection for so many. We should also cherish the presence of careers with longevity when so little else seems to last any great length of time.

    I'd just like to do a "shout out" for some of the new guard (they're probably all over 50 but seems like the best term to use). Matthew Parris on 'Great Lives' is a wonderful presenter and I think maybe the greatest exponent of the spoken word anywhere. Melvyn Bragg endlessly curious on 'In Our Time'. I also remember thinking no-one could replace Brian Redhead, but John Humphries is now I think masterful in the Today slot, and will be similarly mourned when he goes.

    Jack Dee is doing a pretty good job on 'clue'. Definitely a better choice than Fry who just seemed too knowing. He ( Fry ) is excellent on QI however.

  • mrskite mrskite

    4 Aug 2010, 12:36PM

    Humph were big shoes to fill and his bewilderment hard to replace, but Jack Dee is doing a great job, the links are too Humph like though still and should be tailored more to Dee's style.

  • ado16 ado16

    4 Aug 2010, 12:38PM

    Excellent article. I'll add "Peter Day" to the mix from the Business programmes on R4 and the World Service. Always perfectly clear and asks the questions you want to hear.

  • RoyA1 RoyA1

    4 Aug 2010, 12:38PM

    Robert Robinson wrote and presented a documentary many years ago called, I think, The Magic Rectangle". In it he wondered why appearing on TV was enough to make people famous. It used to be that you had to actually achieve something to enjoy renown and fame. But with TV, all you had to do was appear on it.

    Talk about ahead of his time. Nowadays, appearing on it is the goal. The idea of having to achieve something to earn fame is long gone.

  • ado16 ado16

    4 Aug 2010, 12:41PM

    I'd just like to do a "shout out" for some of the new guard (they're probably all over 50 but seems like the best term to use). Matthew Parris on 'Great Lives' is a wonderful presenter

    He'd do better if he bothered to do a bit more research. Quite a few of those programmes miss out - a lot.

  • rodwsmith rodwsmith

    4 Aug 2010, 12:45PM

    I agree about Rob(ert) Robinson's voice, [i]this question is for father and elder child only[/i] (and normal people didn't even understand the question let alone come close to recognising the answer)

    But I think Jack Dee is doing a terrific job on I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue, and I genuinely believe Humphrey would agree. It was never going to work with a 'revolving' host, nor with someone fundamentially jovial (I think Stephen Fry was mooted), but Jack Dee is able to deliver the dead-pan jokes and put downs - dare I say it - just as well as Humphrey did, whilst adding something of his own (by virtue of being younger than the teams I think).

    It was a risk to continue, but it has paid off.

  • BarefootSusie BarefootSusie

    4 Aug 2010, 12:53PM

    It seems all the voices I grew up are disappearing one by one, as well as those already mentioned I’d like to add those that brought Saturday afternoons to life, Peter Jones, Bryon Butler, Peter Bromley as well as voices like Don Mosey, Brian Johnston and I can just about remember John Arlott. Ray Moore on Radio 2 was another favourite in our house.
    It sounds absurd but it feels like RR has been there forever – and then you realise he has in a way. I love BoB, I have listened for many years, I didn’t mind Russell Davies too much, he played a very straight bat, but when the show is not “yours” it’s hard to do anything else. I didn’t take to Peter Snow.

  • Chiyo Chiyo

    4 Aug 2010, 12:55PM

    And let's not forget Brian Johnson's Down Your Way. Someone who was interested in other people, rather than the sound of his own voice. Test Match Special is great radio too, despite the occasional squeaks from Graham Gooch.

  • cutta cutta

    4 Aug 2010, 1:11PM

    try relaxing to the tones of the wondrous Neil Nunes reading the shipping forecast.

    Sorry, I just find his voice all wrong for the shipping forecast, despite really liking him as a continuity announcer. No idea why but it just doesn't work for me.

  • spasuit spasuit

    4 Aug 2010, 1:29PM

    I have been listening to David Jacobs since I first crawled! He is a wonderful broadcaster, badly treated by the BBC.
    I miss the voices of Hubert Gregg and Benny Green more than I can say.

  • QwertySimon QwertySimon

    4 Aug 2010, 1:58PM

    Touching article that really understands the heart of good radio. Now let's create Bubblewrap Radio: the radio station for living radio treasures. Parsons, of course. How about Paul Gambaccini with pop radio at its finest on Saturdays? Check the iPlayer version with Bernstein to Eminem in a 2hr journey. Gore Vidal would have been a good replacement for Cook. So, more Bubblewrap Radio nominations...

  • AnonUK AnonUK

    4 Aug 2010, 2:11PM

    Robert Robinson was born in 1928. "Brain of Britain" remained stuck in the 1950's, which is probably about the time he started in radio. The same was true for his TV work- it was only the fact that most of it was in colour that differentiated it from 1950's TV.

  • kendrew kendrew

    4 Aug 2010, 2:12PM

    Stop The Week is the programme I shall always associate with Mr Robinson. It was the high light of my radio four week; great listening as I prepared the Saturday supper.

    The mould is long broken for the likes of Robert Robinson and world of broadcasting will be all the poorer for his departure.

    Wise and learned gentle and generous whether chairing Brain of Britan or Call my Bluff. An original; he will be missed.

  • Happymeerkat Happymeerkat

    4 Aug 2010, 2:25PM

    Barefootsusie

    Glad you mentioned the late lamented Ray Moore.

    I like Jack Dee on ISIHAC.

    When I was a child "Today" was presented by a man called Jack Dimannio (sp?) who regularly got the time wrong.

  • oyajim oyajim

    4 Aug 2010, 2:37PM

    Could never stand the man. Total turn off. Voice. Style (lack of). Personality (ditto).

    Excellent on the wireless these days? Go no further than Paddy O'Connell with Broadcasting House. Guardian's own podcasts are uniformly excellent.

    Elitist, old school, snob? Out of time, thanks.

  • stonecold00 stonecold00

    4 Aug 2010, 2:45PM

    An excellent piece that manages to pay tribute to Robinson, put him in context and celebrate the wonders of British radio. A world apart from much of the twaddle on this site. More critique of this quality, please.

  • Tukwilla Tukwilla

    4 Aug 2010, 2:57PM

    The nation could save a tremendous amount of electrical energy by bringing back The Billy Cotton Band Show. Millions of radios throughout the land were turned of on hearing "Wakey Wa..." For the oldies: Was there ever a worse singer than Alan Breeze?

    Perhaps Robert could do a Rudie Giuliani and have a second incarnation minus combover.

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