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John Bercow is Speaker, and MPs such as Simon Burns should get over it

The bottom line is whether or not Bercow is doing a good job trying to modernise attitudes and procedures in the House of Commons. My impression is yes

Simon Burns MP.
Simon Burns MP: hit out at the Speaker. Photograph: Martin Godwin for the Guardian

Oh dear. Today's papers carry gleeful accounts – including one from our own Simon Hoggart – of Tory minister Simon Burns getting cross with John Bercow, the Speaker, to the point of calling him a "stupid, sanctimonious little dwarf", or words to that effect.

This is neither kind nor wise. Careers do not prosper as a result. It suggests a lack of control.

And the diminutive Bercow, the target of much Tory criticism and private loathing, is beyond their reach now. He was re-elected by the new house after 6 May with barely a ripple of the widely-predicted revolt. We knew he would be, didn't we?

Burns, on the other hand, is 57 and was a junior health minister (1996-97) under John Major. He has always struck me as an affable enough man, but is lucky to have got a job in Andrew Lansley's team this time when the Wrinkly Police are having older people put down everywhere. He must know it.

Yet Simon's account, confirmed by other sketchwriters such as Ann Treneman and Quentin Letts, describes how Burns was gently ticked off by the Speaker during yesterday's health question time because he answered a Tory question by turning round to face the government benches.

"May I gently ask the minister to face the house?" Bercow said, according to Hansard's version here, adding: "I am sure that opposition members will want to see his face."

"We do, Mr Speaker, very much, we want to see him squirm," Andy Burnham, the next questioner and shadow health secretary, confirmed.

I was not present for this exchange (I was having a quick zzz in the library at the time), but some witnesses suggest that the "face" reference was a niggle. Burns is no Adonis, though neither is Bercow.

There again, the original question had been about NHS waiting times – targets Lansley has just canned, unwisely in my view. It is a subject of passion on both sides, and the Tory Burns had turned to address was Stephen Dorrell, a big cheese.

Dorrell was his old boss as health secretary and is now his new monitor as the chair of the Commons health select committee, whose members are set to include such colourful Tories as David Tredinnick, the alternative medicine buff, and Nadine Dorries, scourge of science.

Some time later, a similar exchange took place. You can read Hansard's version here – but you will not find the offending words, only clues.

As with cabinet minutes – and official accounts of sensitive events where you work, too, I expect – Hansard staff sometimes clean up the language as well as the grammar.

Here is the key bit:

Mr Speaker: Order. I have just had members complaining that they cannot hear. The minister must face the house. It is a very simple point; I have made it to others and they have understood it.

The next we hear from Burns is:

Mr Burns: I am a bit confused as to where to look. [Interruption.] Right, I will look forward.

And apart from a complaint from Ian Paisley Jr about ministers trying to "berate, scoff, scold and hiss" when the chair is doing its job, that was it. Bercow wisely backed off making a big deal of it. Apparently, Burns used to be Bercow's whip – his probation officer – in the long years of opposition. That must have been trying for both of them. There is bad blood there.

Bercow may not feel so relaxed in private. Certainly his wife, Sally, by no means a shrinking wallflower, later tweeted the incident – as Hoggart reports. "Mr B is Speaker, so get over it," she concluded.

Quite so. And Mrs B is a shrewd as well as glamorous operator, I suspect. I watched her chatting with a Labour ex-minister yesterday and she was impressively attentive.

Does any of this matter when the government is hacking away at public spending, much of it sensible but sweeping away a lot of jobs in the process, and the global financial system is still tottering on the edge of crisis? Bad things – as well as good ones – happen all the time, as Jonathan Freedland reminds his readers today.

No, it's not very important. But it is a reminder that the new politics is more like the old politics than high-minded observers would like us to believe. It's hot, people get cross and petty, they settle scores.

The bottom line is whether or not Bercow is doing a good job trying to modernise attitudes and procedures in the House of Commons. My impression is yes. He keeps order well, though I can see that he annoys old Tory colleagues. Even some Labour MPs – the ones who first elected him as a reformer – call him Squeaker.

That's only part of the job, running this huge, creaking institution under pressure. I recently attended an event in Speaker's House where he supervised the giving of the Speaker Abbott (he was the one who allowed the press its own space in 1804) award to a Somalian journalist whose courage made our own worries sound very petty.


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  • Greatoak Greatoak

    30 Jun 2010, 10:20AM

    But why do we want the Commons modernised?
    The traditional values worked. Its your modern liberal laxist members who are trying to kick the traces who want to realise that new is not necessarily better.
    Get an old life ...

  • RedTom RedTom

    30 Jun 2010, 10:55AM

    You Westminster obsessives are incorrigible - but I have to plead guilty to sharing the obsession with the minutiae of politics.

    This spat between Simon Burns and John Bercow in the grand scheme of things is irrelevant. What matters with a speaker however is his or her ability to enable MPs to call the government to account.

    Speaker Bercow's modernising zeal will hopefully result in better legislation and force the government to explain itself on the floor of the house - even when they'd prefer to run a mile.

    Politically, John Bercow has made seismic readjustments in his views and attitudes which probably lies at the heart of Mr Burns's hostility towards him.

  • sunnychina sunnychina

    30 Jun 2010, 11:48AM

    Fact is Bercow and his depuies are so blatanly biased in favour of the Labour opposition to whom they own their privileged position its laughable. The barracking that goes on against the Pm and other ministers by the yobs in the labour party is blame to see and as far as referring to members directly and not through the speakerIn yesterdays Local government debate the Labour guy who was winding up referred to George Osborne and Eric Pickles by name and was not rebuked by the labour deputy speaker . Caroline Flint is always pointing and referring to members opposite directly and having to correct herself promptly, A true Stepford Wife from the '97 intake sulking.
    Bercow and deputies had better get to grips with things because in the coming months and years those Mps who arent happy with the austerity measures are going to be breaking parliamentary rules and he and his deputy better do their jobs or Government and coalition backbenchers will lose confidence in the chair and deal with matters themselves.

  • MikeWhitereplies MikeWhitereplies

    30 Jun 2010, 1:46PM

    Staff Staff

    I'm very fond of the old place and the old ways, having known them for years. But even I can see that it must constantly change and adapt to changed times. I think the line from The Leopard - "everything must change in order that it remain the same" - covers the point.

    Yes, redTom Bercow's right-to-left shift must have annoyed colleagues, but lots of people do that, usuallyin the opposite direction. And yes, we hope for a stronger Commons as a consequence of ongoing change.

    SunnyBeijing, I'm not sure you are right there. Michael Martin was routinely accused of bias, for instance towards Boris Johnson. There was little evidence, he was often generous to BoJo as people often are before he lets them down once too often.

    Bercow seems quite fair when I hear him. Of course, if he is trying to help reassert the rights of parliament against the executive wing of government he is bound to give the Opposition plenty of scope - especially as there is now no Lib Dem opposition in play. He's nice to the Nats too.

    And this government is tempted to play the sort of tricks it was complaining abouyt before May 6 eg pre-briefing policy to the media. JB had to tick off Teresa May at 12.30 today on this point. He did it nicely, she apologised and he stopped further protests. Seemed OK to me

  • sunnychina sunnychina

    30 Jun 2010, 2:31PM

    Well I see as much as you because of parliament TV, Im not sunnybeijing by the way.
    The fact is with this new parliament theres going to be some huffing and puffing and whinging from Labour hacks because of spending cuts, It will interesting to see if he names and removes any that go over the top, I go back to seeing Selwyn Lloyd , George Thomas and Jack Weatherill, speakers that Bercow couldnt hold a candle to in dealing failrly.

  • MikeWhitereplies MikeWhitereplies

    30 Jun 2010, 4:15PM

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    Well it just goes to show how subjective our reactions can be. You go back one Speaker further than i do, but George Thomas was widely seen as over-obliging to Mrs T at the time : quite right too, as i recall.

    Meanwhile: breaking news: an apology

    MINISTER APOLOGISES FOR BRANDING SPEAKER 'A STUPID DWARF'
    By Emily Ashton and Ben Padley, Press Association Political Staff
    A Government minister apologised today after calling Commons Speaker John Bercow a "stupid, sanctimonious dwarf".
    In a short statement, Health Minister Simon Burns said: "If I have caused any offence to any group of people then I unreservedly apologise because that was not my intention."
    His insult had been branded "derogatory and deeply offensive" by the Walking with Giants Foundation, a charity that supports people who suffer from primordial dwarfism.
    Mr Burns made the remarks, along with hand gestures, while seated on the front bench yesterday after Mr Bercow rebuked him for failing to face the despatch box when he answered backbenchers' questions.
    Mr Bercow, who is believed to be 5ft 6in, poked fun at his own height today during a point of order in the Commons.
    Labour former minister Chris Bryant (Rhondda) cheekily said: "I am glad you are getting short with ministers these days."
    The Speaker replied: "You suggest that I have been short with ministers.
    "I am not sure about that but what I would say to you and the House is I have always been short - and I am entirely untroubled by the fact, which is probably as well."

  • BasilCentigradeMP BasilCentigradeMP

    30 Jun 2010, 5:40PM

    If I may, I would like to re-cast Mr Burns' "short" (sic) statement to convey his true meaning.

    "I apologise unreservedly to any other person in the world who is, or might be thought to be, a dwarf, for comparing them to John Bercow. I realise that this was deeply offensive towards these people and it was not my intention to upset them. All I wanted to do was slag off the Speaker.

    "If there is another organisation out there called Walking with Hypocrites, representing the world's prigs and phoneys, I would like similarly to apologise to them in advance for my use in this instance of the word sanctimonious, in case they might have been offended for the same reason"

  • Greatoak Greatoak

    1 Jul 2010, 10:13AM

    Yes it is all pretty sanctimonious.
    It is plainly obvious Burns had no intentions whatsoever of insulting anyone else except Bercow and to make out that it did is ridiculous.
    We seem to have regular episodes of people searching through speeches and statements of ministers and others to see if anything can be misconstrued or re-interpreted to embarrass or offend some minority group.
    Do they really believe they had intended by deft grammar or subliminal thought to include something to offend an otherwise contented minority group or people?
    And then we get the outrage and usual cliche, "people in his position should have known better"!
    It really is wearisome to the general public who wouldn't have thought such wicked intentions were ever meant but in the obvious interpretation.

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