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Workers' pension scheme will be rejected, CBI warns

• Business leaders criticise government initiative
• 'Nest' scheme will cost too much to attract lower paid

Employers fear a government-sponsored pension scheme covering up to 10 million workers will prove a huge turn-off and be rejected by many of the people it was designed to support.

The CBI warned today the National Employment Savings Trust (Nest) could be declared a flop when it is introduced in 2012 because it is complicated and includes up-front charges that will make it expensive for workers who only join for a short period. Millions of savers could "baulk" at the costs of joining the scheme, leaving only the better paid to benefit from the new occupational scheme when they retire, it said.

The business group supported the idea of encouraging a wider take-up of pensions among millions of workers in private firms, but warned of potential problems over the move to automatically enrol staff.

The scheme could be "undermined" when savers realised that putting money into the trust would leave them worse off for over a decade when compared with saving into other pension schemes.

When ministers agreed the scheme they refused to fund initial management costs for each new joiner to the scheme. The decision to make Nest self-financing forced its board to shift the levy to each employee when they join.

Nest members will initially be charged 2% of their first year's contribution when they pay money into the scheme, which is meant to cover the set-up costs, plus a 0.3% annual management charge.

Nest argued the scheme would remain one of the cheapest UK pension schemes and allowed employers currently without a pension to automatically enrol workers without paying set-up costs themselves.

From 2012 employers will be forced to auto-enrol workers in an existing pension plan or the Nest scheme. The scheme will be rolled out over several years until all employees are covered.

Until recently unions and employers groups supported the scheme in principle along with the three main political parties. However, the decision to charge an up-front fee for joining the scheme has divided opinion. An incoming government will struggle to offer subsidies to offset up-front charges. Proposals to spread the costs over several years would raise the annual charge beyond 0.3%, which could also discourage new joiners.

John Cridland, deputy director general of the CBI, said: "Nest is a key part of extending the offer of a good pension to everyone in the private sector. The scheme is meant to be low-cost and easy to understand, so that it spurs people to start saving, but the risk is that many staff will think they are getting a raw deal, and will quit the Nest scheme.

"The next government needs to revisit the structure of these fees. We must make it easier for the low-paid to save by smoothing the cost, instead of front-loading it. The pensions timebomb is ticking loudly, and more people must be encouraged to save."


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  • dogeatdog dogeatdog

    19 Apr 2010, 10:11AM

    This is another plan by Brown to stiff private sector workers.
    Just as with student loans, individuals are required to assess and manage a risk with neither the knowledge nor information required. Aspirational parents saw a university degree as a passprt to a well paid job. This was the case when the UK had large firms like GEC, ICI, etc but these days the only large 'firm' in a position to soak up mass ranks of graduates is the state.
    The financial value of a degree is the discounted sum of the difference in earnings over a working life-time between a graduate and someone with A-levels. Government data in this area was misleading (shock, horror) as it dealt with averages (and before tax as well, loans do not attract tax-relief) which assumed a normal distribution when in fact it was skewed towards high-paying City jobs.
    By having a meagre pension, this puts the individual outside the scope of means-tested benefits. So saving more of government money for public sector employees whose pensions are paid by private sector ones in addition to making their own provision.
    And before anyone in educaion or police, etc. come on saying how much they pay into their schems; first, they do not pay the full amount, secondly the state (the private sector taxpayer in effect) pays the rest and incurs the risk, thirdly that money is not invested to provide a pension pot but merely serves as part of the state Ponzi pay-as-you-go scheme and consequently is merely the government clawing back some of the private sector money it collects to pay to the public sector..
    As the article states, it is front-end loaded so compounding effects are much reduced so that in addition to facing enormous risk the private sector mug (oops) worker has a reduced number of years to earn a return.
    The fund such monies may be invested in come in all shapes and sizes but are highly volatile (risky) and even the so-called lifestyle ones, where an equity based fund morphs into a bond-based one, is very exposed to market conditions as the conversion takes place. Lots of people reaching 50 at the same time could easily cause market fluctuations (over and above normal ones) as lots of shares are sold (prices fall) and bonds are bought (prices rise) casuing a loss at that stage.
    The government has two choices. Fund all pensions equitably (they take the place of the employer in occupatioal schemes), that obviously will impact upon public sector ones or abandon public-sector final salary state schemes, which will also affect state workers. Either way the public sector cannot continue on their coseted way.
    The old private sector final-salary pension was a deal between state and employer in the same way that US companies picked up healthcare costs rather than the Federal government. Brown broke that compact. Brown is proposing all the bad sides of Obama's health deal (mandatory insurance purchase) without any of the good points (subsidise insurance risk). Typical.

  • Ilovedoggies Ilovedoggies

    19 Apr 2010, 10:27AM

    I work in the private sector (with no pension entitlement or benefits at all) and I sure as hell will be opting out of this scam. I simply cannot afford it. My wages are far too low.

  • ElephantJuice ElephantJuice

    19 Apr 2010, 3:58PM

    0.3% a year - don't you know how CHEAP that is - more than makes up for the initial cost of 2% - someone erning £20,000 a year would get £1,600 into their pension from all sources the initial cost of that 2% charge is £32!! Theneafter if the fund would be charged £3 a year per £1,000 in the fund - fill your socks mate - cheap as chips!!

    Don't listen to that CBI bloke - the same organisation telling you NI increase of 1% is too much and that the minimum wage was goingto mean mass redundancies - his only thinking with his pocket....

  • heslop heslop

    19 Apr 2010, 6:22PM

    Anyone that is a basic rate taxpayer should not go anywhere near a pension product.All the so called tax breaks will be wiped out by the pension providers charges and the 5 billion a year tax raid by Brown.Avoid at all costs. If anyone tells you any different it is because they will be working in the industry.

  • butteredballs butteredballs

    19 Apr 2010, 6:41PM

    Only consider a pension if you have money left over after each year's allowance for share ISAs. Pay no attention to this advice, and, arguably, you deserve to be robbed - which you will be through fees and tax.

  • bobthebuilder21 bobthebuilder21

    19 Apr 2010, 10:21PM

    why save for a pension, my father just retired after paying 50 years national insurance, because he has a private pension he is denied pension credits, his neighbour who has no private pension gets this top up from the government and they both come out with roughly the same.

    he saved for nothing he could have spent it all and still had the same income hes got now.

  • Boeingclipper Boeingclipper

    19 Apr 2010, 10:37PM

    0.3% annual charge is most reasonable, but the 2% upfront charge is totally unjustified.

    Why can't they make this thing into something like a SIPP, with money going initially (for younger members) into a variety of cheap tracker funds, then into bond funds as people near retirement age?

    You can do this sort of thing on fund supermarket sites with no upfront fees at all, so I don't see why the government needs to charge them.

  • IanCb IanCb

    20 Apr 2010, 7:30AM

    Another gimmick nobody is interested in. What is the point trying to persuade people who don't have enough to live on that they should save for the future.

    Sadly, when the pension bill starts to balloon in a decade or two and the state cuts back on benefits to pensioners then it will be too late. It's inevitable.

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